Thursday, 9 April 2015

Ten Things You Need to Know About Today's Royal Baby Press Briefing!

We're back with news from today's Palace briefing on the royal baby; there was more information provided than I thought, having mistakenly presumed it would very much focus on media arrangements at the Lindo Wing. Following a great read through several articles and a quick chat with those who attended the briefing, here are ten key points you need to know about!

1. There Will Be No "Great Kate Wait" Outside the Lindo Wing

That's right, we will not see the enormous global media presence outside the Lindo Wing as expected for the rest of the month. Following careful consideration it has been decided the media will not be permitted to set up camp outside the hospital until after the Duchess is admitted.


More from Rebecca English's story:

'However sources also said the couple wanted to avoid the media circus that greeted Prince George’s arrival given that it was also a ‘private, family moment’.
‘We would appeal to all media to respect the family nature of this moment and provide the appropriate amount of privacy they should be able to expect,’ said an aide.
 
To that extent, both the hospital authorities and the police are going to prevent cameraman, photographers and reporters from waiting outside the hospital door until after the Duchess goes into labour.'

We're going to see an entirely different set-up this time, much more controlled than the arrival of Prince George which drew unparalleled attention. We can think of a photographer or two who will be pleased to hear the Great Kate Wait 2 will not involve weeks of waiting outside the Lindo Wing!


2. The Duchess of Cambridge Will Take a Longer Maternity Leave

There have been whispers about Kate possibly taking a considerably longer maternity leave this time and several of you correctly speculated so. The precise length of time has not been specified but several royal commentators noted they expected it will be "several months" or "the autumn" before the Duchess undertakes public engagements again. An aide said: "As you suspect with two very young children her focus will be on her family over the summer".


Nonetheless, we do expect to see Kate at Trooping the Colour on 13 June, and equally I wouldn't rule out appearances at The Queen's Garden Party or Order of the Garter.


More from Richard Palmer:

Richard Palmer Twitter Feed

When Prince George was born, we first saw Kate in an official capacity five-weeks after the birth for a farewell engagement in Anglesey.


Two weeks after that, the Duchess accompanied Prince William at the inaugural Tusk Conservation Awards wearing a glittering Jenny Packham gown. One could say both of these engagements were not "the norm". Bidding Anglesey farewell was very important to both William and Kate who enjoyed a hugely happy and peaceful time on the isle. As for the Tusk awards, one suspects because it was the first time the event had been held she wanted to support her husband.


Of course, we'll also see photos of the Cambridges leaving the hospital, official photos will be released afterwards and the christening will be in the offing too.

3. Prince William May Face Hospital Dash for Birth of Second Child

Once again, Kate fully intends to deliver at the Lindo Wing, St Mary's Hospital, Paddington and will primarily base herself in London until the baby's arrival, however, royal aides have drawn up contingency plans to rush her to the Royal Berkshire Hospital near her parents' home in Bucklebury, Berkshire and the Queen Elizabeth Hospital in King's Lynn, close to Anmer Hall.

Duke and Duchess of Cambridge Official Website

Prince William will be working as a trainee air ambulance pilot with East Anglia Air Ambulance around the time Kate is due, at three possible different sites - Cambridge, Norwich and Gloucestershire Airport at Staverton. A Palace aide said: "He will never be more than a couple of hours drive from London", but he could face quite a dash as royal staff have ruled out using a helicopter to transport the second-in-line back to London.

William plans to take two weeks paternity leave.

4. A Summer at Anmer Hall

Similar to the pattern we saw with Prince George, the couple will return to Kensington Palace for a couple of days, giving senior members of the Royal family - including Her Majesty - an opportunity to meet Baby Cambridge. Afterwards, the plan is to spend the summer at Anmer Hall in Norfolk. The Cambridges have been spending quite a lot of time there, and it is understood the Middletons will be on hand too.


5. If Birth Occurs After 10 pm It Will Not Be Announced Until the Next Day

If the royal baby arrives after 10 pm no announcement will be made until 8 am the next morning. William and Kate have also vowed, like last time, not to make public his or her arrival until they have informed both families.

The birth will be announced via a press release, followed a few moments later by an announcement on Twitter (this is the account you need to be following) and afterwards the traditional bulletin will be posted on an easel outside Buckingham Palace.

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6. The Couple Do Not Know the Gender of the Baby

Contrary to some media reports, during a briefing at Buckingham Palace this morning a spokesman confirmed that the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge do not know if their second child will be a boy or a girl.

An aide said:
‘For the avoidance of doubt, like last time, the Duke and Duchess do not know if their baby will be a boy or a girl.’

7. The Couple Will Decide on the Day Whether or Not 'Excited' Prince George Will Visit His Sibling at the Hospital

For those of us who are hoping to see the ever-adorable Prince George's arrival at St. Mary's to meet his new sibling, the couple are as yet undecided. I had thought it possible George might accompany Mike and Carole Middleton when they arrive to meet their new grandchild. One source told The Express: "Many parents like to introduce their child to the new arrival but I think they'll wait and see how they feel at the time."


Perhaps the cutest snippet of information from the briefing: an aide revealed Prince George is very 'excited' about the impending arrival of a brother or sister :)


8. Kate's Medical Team!

The couple have chosen obstetrician Guy Thorpe-Beeston, who has over twenty years experience in the field, to lead the team delivering the baby. He was part of the team who delivered Prince George, under the careful eye of Sir Marcus Setchell, who is now retired. Once again, Alan Farthing will assist.

Back to Rebecca English's story:

'The doctor, who says he liked to ‘keep things simple’ by ‘offering honest advice’, specialises in pre-natal diagnosis, deliveries and ultrasound.
He graduated from Cambridge University in 1984 and worked at King’s Hospital in London before becoming a consultant in foetal medicine at Chelsea and Westminster in 1996.'

9. No Plans for Additional Staff

Again, contrary to media reports, officials dismissed claims that the couple plan to hire a maternity nurse in addition the Nanny Maria Teresa, who several people I spoke with earlier this evening described as a "splendid addition" to the Cambridge team. One aide said: "At this stage the Duke and Duchess do not intend to take on any additional staff."


10. William and Kate Are "Hugely Grateful" for Warm Wishes

In a statement read at the briefing, an aide said:

‘The Duke and Duchess are hugely grateful for the warm wishes they have received from people throughout the UK and indeed around the world over the last few months.
 ‘They know that people are excited Prince George will soon have a little brother or sister and it means a great deal to them that so many will be celebrating this important moment for their family. They are very appreciative that so many people share their excitement as they await the arrival of their second baby.’

I thought it a nice touch to acknowledge the good wishes that have been expressed around the world, congratulating the couple on their second child and it's a lovely note to end our post on!

Duke and Duchess of Cambridge Official Website

I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts on the briefing. Did anything surprise you? Are you surprised at the decision not to allow the media to camp out? And most importantly, do you have Royal Baby fever yet? Punters are placing their bets on 'Princess Alice arriving on 20 April ' :)

147 comments:

  1. No surprises for me. It makes sense to put restrictions on when the cameramen can set up camp - July 2013 must have been awful for staff and locals nearby. What a pain.

    I think it is perfectly fine that Kate may not really return to work until the autumn, maybe popping out for Tropping the Colour. Some have expressed disappointment over this which surprises me.
    Additionally, I have noticed the last two years she rarely worked in May and August, and very little in June and July, while packing in engagements the end of the year. So... I don't see a difference.
    She has two kids and only one nanny, and William will be away working; she'll be busy enough I would think.

    Thank you Charlotte for the updates!

    I am betting on a girl after Will's recent excited comments about the baby's arrival. I may be wrong but I don't think it will be Alice. Maybe Victoria Elizabeth Diana, after the last three (and would-be) Queens.
    I am choosing April 24 :)

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    1. Maggie - Minneapolis10 April 2015 at 02:48

      I don't really have a problem with Kate not doing appearances until the fall either, but I do think it's wrong to portray this decision as a necessity, given how many mothers around the world have to work full-time and do not have a nanny (even if "only" one), a husband (even if a working one), a housekeeper, and their own mother to help out.
      But like I said, I'm fine with the decision. Every woman deserves time to bond with her new child, and George will be confused with the change in the family and deserves some time with his mom for the adjustment. I just hope that once she comes back, she works hard and does a lot.

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    2. The last three Queens would be Elizabeth Mary Alexandra - you're forgetting a couple! (But those names are identical to the present Queen's, only in a different order, so I don't think we'll be seeing that combination.)

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    3. Thank you - I most certainly have! Goodness!

      Sorry my brain has been exceptionally mushy, training for two new nursing jobs, pardon my mistakes :p

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  2. Sarah from Calif.10 April 2015 at 02:13

    Oh dear, I am getting so excited 😁
    1. As for the press issue and them hanging out side the hospital, I think the restrictions are very appropriate. Good grief, it's a hospital and there are other patients!
    2.Longer maternity leave! Good! It is all a big adjustment, but really Kate will be out there supporting her country asap, so no one worry.
    3. Hehehe, William won't miss it for the world but he does have a few obstacles.🏇
    4. Summer at Anmer Hall-delightful in every way 😊
    5.Hope they can wait as long as possible before they have to send the Official Announcement. It's all about them, we can wait!!!
    6. Love the old fashioned way, surprise :)))
    7. I do hope George can see baby asap, this wouldn't be an issue except for all of us.
    8. Medical team- God bless you.
    9. Maria Teresa- saw the way she was loving George when she didn't know the camera was watching, genuine love . She's a keeper :)
    10. 😁💝👑 yep, Warmest wishes and prayers from Sunny California !
    P.S. Charlotte, lovely post. As you can see I had fun with your 1,2,3......
    Big hugs to you for all you do.👑👑👑

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    1. Sarah from Calif.10 April 2015 at 13:52

      Well little happy faces and pictures don't work here, only ? appear. Opps

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  3. Marci near Salt Lake City10 April 2015 at 02:24

    I'm glad they decided to eliminate the "Great Kate Wait" part of the scenario. It was ridiculous, really, and such a problem for the people living and working in the area, not to mention other hospital patients and their families.

    I wonder if George's excitement will turn into jealousy after the new arrival is suddenly claiming most of his mother's time. Sometimes children his age get angry, sometimes they become withdrawn, sometimes they cling as much as possible, and sometimes they take it all in stride and happily become Mummy's Little Helper. It makes sense for Kate to focus on the children over the summer to see how George will handle having a sibling; as great as it can turn out to be, sometimes it does not start out that way! Let's hope George handles it well. And Kate may get less sleep than with George if the new baby has a hard time sleeping through the night and then just as it finally goes to sleep, George gets up and expects to have his mother to get him up and so forth. Of course Maria Teresa will be there; but Kate can't abandon George.

    My two children were 16 years apart so I didn't have this kind of scenario. But there was still jealousy and a feeling of some abandonment to work through with the older child. All I can say to Kate is, Good luck!

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  4. I'm very glad the press will be kept further away!

    I'm hoping for a girl!

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  5. I wish every new mother could choose to spend as much time at home with her children as she wants. Many cannot but the Duchess should take as much time as she likes with her young family. She has decades to smile and shake hands but only a few precious years with her little ones.

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    1. Beautifully said, Greybird!

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    2. Yes, well said. I'm glad people are "okay" with the decision, but it is Kate's to make.

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  6. I had to comment Charlotte and say you made me smile with the photo under the statement that George is "excited" for the birth. George looks about as "excited" here as I was when my younger sister was born. I'm the first born in my family and like George I was also the first grandchild for my grandparents. It's definitely an adjustment having to share the spotlight, but I wouldn't trade my younger siblings for anything. It sounds like George will have a lot of support around him as he grows into the role of big brother.

    I'm glad the press wont be camping out in front of the hospital all month, but the Great Kate Wait did have some wonderful moments (i.e the Sun newspaper sending Will and Kate lookalikes to the hospital doors). I'm excited for the first photos of George and his new brother or sister. I know photography is one of Kate's passions. I think it would be amazing if the palace released photos of George and his sibling taken by Kate.

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  7. Vanessa from Kentucky10 April 2015 at 04:13

    I'm getting excited about the birth ! I'm guessing a girl born on the 18th. Either way I hope for a healthy baby for William and Kate:)

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  8. i love they have learned from last year great kate work and i think the duchess and duke decides too keep the press fruther way for them i know the duke will not miss the birth of second baby do love everything charlotte im hoping for a girl

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  9. I am so glad the media have restrictions this time. I felt embarrassed for the media during the great kate wait. It was at such ridiculous proportions...the media ran out of things to say due to the constant rolling coverage. Quite embarrassing i must say...if. I was a journalist waiting outside the lindo wing for two weeks....i would be asking myself "i went to college for this?!"

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    1. Rebecca - Sweden10 April 2015 at 20:02

      I agree. This is way better for all parties. For the couple, the staff, the patients, the residents, the security and the press. So it's really a win-win situation!

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  10. Kate, Texas, USA10 April 2015 at 05:31

    I can't say that I am surprised by any of the 10 big announcements. :) I am getting very excited and Royal baby fever is in the air! I am glad the Great Kate Wait round 2 will not occur thinking of the other patients, residents in the neighborhood, and employees of the hospital, BUT there is a slight part of me that's a bit sad. I know it must have been a nuisance, but the excitement and anticipation was SO exciting. I'm sure those who camped out for a couple weeks last time around will be relieved.

    I selfishly hope Kate will be at Trooping the Colour as I will be back in London again this year. It's always such a treat to see Wills and Kate on the balcony together. I am happy to know she will be taking a longer maternity leave. A summer at Anmer Hall sounds wonderful! Kate will have her hands full with adjusting to 2 kiddos under 2 and William flying. I hope she enjoys and savors the privacy and time.

    I'm still hoping for the prince or princess to come on HM's birthday, April 21. Hoping Kate is enjoying these last few days and getting some rest (as much as possible with a toddler running around and being very pregnant). Thanks for the great update Charlotte. And now we all wait for most anticipated birth of 2015!

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    1. Sarah from Calif.11 April 2015 at 01:51

      Hi, Kate ! Hey I'll join you in London !

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    2. Pauline Oak Hills12 April 2015 at 01:49

      Me too, I wish. It would be so much fun if we all could go.

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  11. Thank you Charlotte for providing us with fun reading while we wait for the birth! Your blog will definitely help fill the void while Kate is on maternity leave :).

    One thing that doesn't make sense to me, is if Kate goes into labor why can't William take a helicopter? They use them all the time and Kate going into labor seems like a more than appropriate time to use one. That way he doesn't risk missing the birth, but also, that way he doesn't risk an accident. I know he will have a police escort, but still traveling at high speeds trying to get there in time could be dangerous. I am just surprised he cannot use a helicopter. With George I vaguely remember that if William was not in London at the time he would be allowed the use of a helicopter to get there. But maybe that is my mind playing tricks on me. Hopefully he will just stay at KP around the due date so that he doesn't have to worry about it.

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    1. Rebecca - Sweden10 April 2015 at 20:04

      I agree about the helicopter, but I think they are afraid of a backlash from the public...

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    2. Obviously he will take the helicopter. They just won't go into that much detail in a public statement like this.

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    3. anon from Leominster11 April 2015 at 01:02

      Horrible publicity recently when Charles took a helicopter for an enviromental speech so I think this is much on everyone's mind. There is also much unease about the perks William receives, now he is a "private" employee. The only reason he is not in London is due to this employment. It is very important that William's job-on-the-side put as little burden on the public purse as possible or there will be an outcry. So I think they are encouraging people to think he won't use it. Whether he does remains to be seen.

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    4. Sarah from Calif.11 April 2015 at 01:58

      Yep, backlash from the the critiques.....how dare he use the the Public money, then if he doesn't make it, another out rage. Well from the other side of the Pond , I say " I'll pay for the freekin helicopter ! "

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    5. I'm not sure that it would be considered a public event. He'd (theoretically) have to pay for it otherwise.

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    6. Yeah, there's zero chance of him not using a helicopter if he needs one. But consider the security risk of confirming he will travel by helicopter. And, of course, the backlash.

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    7. What seems to be, is not necessarily all the time that.
      1. Approaching her due date, his schedule most likely will be well arranged in a way that he is in London.
      2. This could also be a nice way to keep insider media informed and eliminate the rest by having the baby near Norfolk.
      3. Or that can give a good excuse if Kate ends up in her parents house close to her due date to have her go to the closest hospital to their home.

      The likely hood of events could be in the order of the above sequence of numbers. There is PR spin too the extreme almost like insulting the public in order to profile William as the ordinary hard working commoner who has to to go through hardship even to be at his child' birth. It is a bit of too much sales. If at all it is true a 100%, it is still cringe worthy.

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  12. Jean from Lancs10 April 2015 at 08:37

    Sensible arrangement--must have been appalling for staff and patients in the hospital last time, also for decision as to whether to take George to the hospital. Excited as he is at the thought of a sibling, the reality might be different. or he might be upset at having to leave his mum again.
    Glad they are then going to take the children to Norfolk, away from the polluted London air. Of course many mothers cannot afford to take all their maternity leave, but quite candidly she can, so good luck to her. She obviously enjoys being with the children and it should be her choice.
    Thanks for all the information Charlotte. For Catherine's sake, hope she has the baby next week.

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    1. Agree it's more sensible this time. That door-cam or whatever they had last time was ridiculous. They could have substituted grass growing or paint drying and it would have been more informative than staring at a door that never opened!

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  13. Eve from Germany10 April 2015 at 08:52

    As I´ve said before, I´m surprised they let ANYONE camp outside the Lindo Wing UNTIL it is clear when the Duke and Duchess will step outside to show their newborn to the "world". I wouldn´t want to be admitted to hospital being in labour knowing that JUST NOW the media starts to camp outside the hospital!! Why is anyone going there this early anyway? From last time we know there is not anything happening worth noting or reporting until some time after the baby has been born.... Personally, I can be in "Royal Baby Fever" (and believe me, I AM) and not see any live coverage from outside the Lindo Wing unless and until the birth is actually announced! Thanks to the Palace using Twitter we will know in time - and until then nobody will know anything for sure anyway - so what´s the point!

    I guess we will see some public appearances during the summer - I´m sure they want to wait and see how the Duchess feels and how everything works out. I think they are quite right taking some pressure away from the young family! The summer is a very quiet time for the Royals anyway, but I´m sure if Kate feels alright, she will make an appearance at Trooping the colour or the Garter procession (might be a welcome break from looking after two very young children, who knows.... ;-)))) )
    Thanks for the update, Charlotte, I enjoyed it as usual!!
    Sunny greetings from Germany!!!

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    1. Sarah from Calif.11 April 2015 at 02:04

      Oh Eve, you are a dear! I too can wait until after baby is born !!!! This whole technological picture mania is out of hand.

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  14. Good for them for taking what control they have of the situation. It will still be a great wait from the time they announce she has gone into labor, to when they announce the arrival, and to when we get to see the cutie. So I still think there will be plenty of us staring at that darn door. :) I don't think they will bring George to the hospital like Prince Charles brought William to see Harry. They've been very private and God-forbid he is crying like babies do, all of the press will say he hates being a big brother or that he's jealous. I can't wait to see a picture of just the two of them together- I hope they release one eventually. So excited!

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  15. The Great Kate Wait was very exciting - everything has calmed down this time. I think we will have to wait at least two weeks until Kate gives birth...

    I understand that the Duchess takes a longer maternity leave which is also very normal in our culture (Germany). They want a happy childhood for their kids as the media presence will raise when the kids get older and when William is king in some years. They are still no full time royals. But I hope for some outings and some released photos :)

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  16. Media won't just be camping out on the day of-- so will I!! Can't wait!!

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  17. I too hope she'll be at Trooping the Colour and Order of the Garter because I'll be there this year :)

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  18. Lynn Georgia USA10 April 2015 at 14:54

    thanks so much, Charlotte, for this very welcome and very informative post. My daughter's birthday is April 20, but I am not hoping for that day for the royal baby. It's Hitler's birthday!! And my daughter has gotten teased about that a lot!! It's funny for us, but I don't want it for the royal baby.

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    1. My daughter's b-day is April 20th as well. She turns 25 this year. The bit about it being Hitler's b-day was mentioned once or twice but was never much. There are millions of babies born on that date, so your daughter should not let it be a big deal. (BTW, my son's b-day is April 1. Talk about a day to get teased on!)

      I will be in London the weekend of the Marathon (April 26) so I'm hoping the birth is then!

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  19. Robbie from Virginia10 April 2015 at 15:36

    Prince George isn't the only one 'excited'. I'm hoping for a girl born on Queen Elizabeth's birthday, but bet it is a baby boy, born May 4th, weighing about 7 lbs 10 oz, named Albert Spencer. The Cambridges seem to be a very thoughtful, caring couple as evidenced by these plans. I will miss the Duchess's appearances during this time.

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  20. I am so excited now that the April sunshine is here and that our new royal baby is shortly to be with us. I have an intuitive feeling it shall be a little girl and Princess Alexandra, Alice Elizabeth myself or Alexandra Alice Louise. Our lovely Warwickshire Hamlet loves excuse an to celebrate from royal weddings, babies, Jubilees, sporting events and elections! So we have ironed our bunting ready for the announcement and then out is draped and in come the villagers laden with offerings and we celebrate our wonderful royal family with champagne, canapes and supper whilst watching the Cambridges leave hospital ~ Wonderful, we are blessed and may the sunshine last for us all.

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    1. Good for you! Send photos to Charlotte. Perhaps she could do a post on excited royal watchers decorating for the impending birth.

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    2. This sounds delightful!!!im hoping for a girl but Im pretty sure it will be a boy.
      Charlotte Francis Spencer is my choice of a baby girl's name :-)

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  21. Tedi in California10 April 2015 at 16:13

    Lovely to read your post Charlotte. I have missed them. Agree with all the points, especially the camping out at the hospital. Just wish them a safe delivery of a healthy baby, and happy parents.

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  22. Lynn Georgia USA10 April 2015 at 16:22

    The only one of the ten I regret is 10--8 news blackout--for us in the US, I calculate that will be 5pm--3am. Is that right? I presume England has switched from GMT to British Summertime?

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    1. Jean from Lancs11 April 2015 at 10:16

      Guessing that this possible blackout is because they will not wake the Queen to tell her of the birth.

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    2. The overnight blackout would also prevent the media frenzy from starting at the hospital between those hours.

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    3. I thought it had more to do with the staff making the formal announcements actually having a life and family and not working through the night.

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  23. Glad she'll she'll be taking the extended time to bond with the new baby, very important. She'll also be settling into a new home, an adjustment for her and both the children. There will be many years for her to work as a Royal only a few short ones when her children are so young, I think they are the priority. God bless from California .

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  24. klara from croatia10 April 2015 at 17:27

    I think you should start the "like" buttton for comments because some of them are so beautiful and well said like the obne from Anna May with whom I completely agree :)))

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    1. Marci near Salt Lake City10 April 2015 at 20:53

      Oh Charlotte, I would LOVE a "like" button too! So many times your readers' comments are expressed beautifully and I would like to give them kudos, but it's tiresome to read a comment each time that happens. Klara, if there were a "like" button, your idea would get the most likes of all!

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    2. Yes, to a 'like' button.

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    3. I am very excited for the Cambridge' and for their immediate and extended family. An exciting time to be sure but also very stressful especially given their popularity and the aggressive coverage they receive. I agree wholeheartedly with the restrictions as they also relieve the stress on the hospital staff and other patients using that facility. I pray that all goes well and that they welcome a healthy baby!

      Thanks Charlotte for your post--yours is my 'go to" source for all information concerning the Duchess and I am deeply appreciative.

      Best Wishes.

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  25. I'm very excited for the family. My personal transition from one to two babies was hard. I wish I had a longer maternity leave and I'm happy for the princess that she can take more time. It's a big adjustment! Very happy for them all and wishing them a happy, healthy mom, baby and family! Heather - Detroit, MI USA

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  26. Excellent restrictions, in my opinion. I think any privacy they can get at such a time in their lives is wonderful.

    As an American, I find it odd (despite their wealth and position) that people would think they would need to hire another nanny, as if one person can't take care of two children at once. Even if Kate works from home on her charities and such, it seems odd to me to think that she would need more help than she already has. Perhaps it's a cultural difference. Maternity leave here is usually only 6-8 weeks and most women manage multiple children, full time jobs, and managing the home with no outside help.

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    1. anon from Leominster11 April 2015 at 01:20

      Many wealthy women like Kate hire a maternity nurse who assists in getting the baby in a routine and often supplements a nanny. But a maternity nurse isn't exactly a second nanny and doesn't usually remain after the first month or so. It seems William and Kate don't plan to hire one but who can really say.

      I quite honestly don't think maternity leave as a term should apply to Kate since she works nothing like a full time schedule that most mums do. Last year she did only about one engagment in May and four in July, a couple of them attending sports events - and one engagement in August so I'm not sure what she's taking leave from. It would seem reasonable that she attend the Trooping and possibly the Garter ceremony but that's likely to be it until September or October, which seems reasonable enough. It's rare for mums these days to take more than six months - and they're going back to full week schedules.

      It's not that I mind Kate taking the time - it's treating her as if she is a mum working a full time schedule. She has an enormous amount of time to spend bonding with George and will with the new little one. Even if she had decided to take on the same somewhat higher level of visits she has this winter, the vast majority of time is still her own, leaving plenty of time for bonding.

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    2. Nicely put Leo, let's not feel sorry for her:))

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    3. Hi Leo, I wondered about the maternity nurse too, especially as it was published not too long ago that they would hire a maternity nurse, mostly so Kate could get some sleep. I wonder why now they've decided she doesn't need any?

      I agree with you about maternity leave. I don't think anyone would expect to see her for a while after the baby's born. Even here in theUSA we wouldn't expect to see a new mother back at work for six weeks. But then that mother would be thrown in the deep end working 40 hour weeks. Kate has the luxury of being able to do exactly what she wants when she wants to do it. I hope she knows how lucky and privileged she is in that department.

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    4. Thank you! Probably many American women would love to hire a maternity nurse, but I'd prefer the personal bonding.

      I do think Kate probably does more work at home than people realize, prepping for engagements. Even things like shopping and fittings so we can see all her lovely outfits can take up large amounts of time. But I agree, she's not exactly working the full time schedule as the older generations of royals. That said, she will only have a few years of her life to enjoy the relative ease and privacy she has now and I fully support it.

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    5. I would absolutely love it if shopping for clothes and having them fitted counted as work time.

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    6. They are not full time royals yet.

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    7. Kate's life is atypical and I believe she's too grounded to NOT understand that. I just wish some of her followers would accept it and not beat her up for it, repeatedly. :)

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    8. Bluhare, that's what happens in the USA. In other countries her maternity leave seems short.
      The USA are not the universal measure, right :D

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    9. Anonymous 7:01,
      I agree. In many countries (mine included) it is common to take several months of maternity leave. I applaud American women who successfully make do with such a short time but that does not mean that it should be the norm. In fact, perhaps American commenters on here might want to consider that creating workplaces that allow women to take longer maternity leaves if they so wish (without having to face any repercussions) might be something worth aspiring to.

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    10. I believe I stated that's what happens in the US, Anonymous, nor do I think the US is the universal measure. I even said "even" in the US implying that even here, with no national policy we don't expect to see people for six weeks. I deleted my sentence regarding my opinion of that as it's political and doesn't belong here.

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    11. I have been holding off commenting from this thread, but after the last few comments, I feel evoked to :).

      bluhare, your comments always make me smile. I would also love shopping and fittings to be considered work time. That would be amazing!!!

      Anon @ 7:01, I don't think bluhare was saying the USA is the norm we should all base things on. Actually in this instance, Kate lives in the UK, so that is what most people are going off of. Bluhare was simply saying what her experience was in the USA. Nothing more.

      Royalfan, I am sure that Kate knows how unique her life is from those around her-you would have to be blind not to. I just hope she appreciates it. I wish some of her followers would realize how luxurious her life is compared to the rest of us and therefore not act like she is 'one of us'. Especially in regards to running a household and a working mom. No one is beating Kate up, rather I think people are just tired of some fans acting like Kate is the same as the rest of us, ie. doing it all. It is the some of her fans/media doing it, not Kate. So, I just wish some of her followers would stop making Kate's life out to be so strenuous, repeatedly :).

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    12. Well, I believe her fans understand that Kate isn't running around KP or AH with a mop and vacuum cleaner, and that she has help changing diapers when she needs it. But it would be wonderful if the folks who are less than smitten with her recognized that just because she doesn't have to do some of the things that most of us do in our daily lives, it does not mean she doesn't have *other* responsibilities that require her time.

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    13. Anon 19:18, I agree. The US is not exactly the leader in this area.

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    14. Maggie - Minneapolis13 April 2015 at 18:42

      Royalfan - I guess I can recognize that if you can recognize the fact that just because she doesn't have to do some of the things that most of us do in our daily lives, it does not mean that she DOES have *other* responsibilities that require her time. It's all assumptions. It would be wonderful if you could recognize that.

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  27. Sarah from Calif.11 April 2015 at 02:11

    Charlotte, have a lovely weekend !!!!
    Enjoy the green rolling hills, the crash of the ocean, the lovely accent of all things Irish and mostly the Joy of knowing you are a beautiful soul !

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    1. Thank you so much Sarah :)

      I hope you all have a splendid weekend!

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    2. Pauline Oak Hills12 April 2015 at 01:41

      AMEN to that Sarah. Charlotte does put out a good blog.

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    3. You as well have a wonderful weekend Charlotte.

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  28. Not surprised by any of it and agree with all decisions made.

    I’m sure they’ll release photos in May and I expect Catherine will be at Trooping, baring any illness on her or the children’s part. I’m also sure the Christening will be before the Queen leaves for Scotland, so end of June or beginning of July. We don’t see Catherine at official functions during the summer anyway, so nothing different there and the baby will be 5 months in September and she’ll continue with appearances.

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  29. Eve from Massachusetts11 April 2015 at 04:34

    I think that baby name will be Albert or Alexandra, the first royal owners of Anmer Hall.

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    1. She or he might even be born in Norfolk close to Anmer Hall. I wish I knew all these places when I lived in London in my teen years.

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  30. I find it odd that so many people compare their maternity leaves or lives to hers. Do you compare your husband's life to how Bill Gates lives his life? Because that's about how similar they would be. I know that she "feels" like an ordinary oerson, but she's really not. Glad the media won't be forced to camp out. Hoping for a girl.

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    1. anon from Leominster11 April 2015 at 18:28

      The comparison to the Gates is odd because Melinda Gates at the same age as Kate was already making her mark as a very noted philanthropist and has spent her life active in public service. She is an honourary dame in Britain because of it.

      However there is an enormous difference between the Gates who are private citizens and pay for their own security and homes and William and Kate who are public servants, whose employment is completely dependant, as with all royals, on public support and good will.

      Royal finances are something of a black art and public payouts versus private wealth can be almost impossible to gage. Much royal wealth is quasi-public/private. But with security and a rent-free Kensington Palace flat alone, British subjects see - to use an American term - their tax funds at work every time Kate goes shopping surrounded by six security officers.

      When royal political power was diminished, the royal family needed to craft a new role for themselves and did so by a dedication to public works. Like all public servents, they also saw the need to craft a relationship between themselves and the public - something that is not necessary for those privately wealthy. Hence, we have often heard how the queen told Charles "dog leads cost money" and Anne wears clothes that are decades old. The most successful royals don't flaunt their wealth.

      We know the royals lead very different and extremely privilaged lives but they are the first to want people to be able to relate to them, respect them and not think they are squandering public funds. (Security is the single highest royal expense.) It is a delicate balance and one Kate will spend her life needing to be mindful of, regardless of how she sees herself.

      Personally, I agree there is little connection between Kate's life and that of an ordinary working mum which is why I don't like to see terms applying to working mums used for her. Maternity leave is for women who need time off from full time employment to bond with their baby, sort out their lives and find childcare beofre going back to helping support their families.

      It is not a term applicable to Kate who has no such pressure on her time. I have no problem with Kate "taking time off" to bond with her baby but I don't forget she already has ample time to do so and an enormous amount of help to ease her way.

      I also believe the baby will be born in London at the Lindo wing. If the baby was born elsewhere and there were complications, it would raise considerable controversy. With a child so close to the throne, I don't think this is a risk the royal family will take. Princess Margaret was born in Scotland but those were very different times.

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    2. Perhaps we should remember that raising a future King of England who is an emotionally grounded person, secure in himself and able to take on the role he is born to is WORK. Catherine is not taking "time off" but making fewer public appearances. I'm sure lots of private supportive work for her charities and behind the scenes efforts will still go on. We only need to look at past Princes of Wales who might have benefitted from a secure and loving upbringing.

      Every time these discussion threads begin about Catherine's work (or lack thereof) I have to chuckle and think: Haven't we learned anything from Downton Abbey? All those toffs who don't work! Born with a silver spoon et cetera.This time I'm saying it.

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    3. I have to laugh everytime Kate's work.lack of by some people comes up. You know we have no idea what she does behind the scene while at home or in her office. We do know that she DOES do work behind the scene. But people still want to bitch about it.
      And the statement that they hqvel alot of help. Let's see they have a house keeper/cook at KP, a nanny for George when Kate is doing her charity work, running errands and yes while she shops. But they are looking for a house keeper/cook for their country home while they will be living full time when the new baby is born and while William works. And oh yes they have the help of her parents, can't forget that.
      I really would love to see Kate tell everyone to bug off and be a stay at home mom and only do engagements to support William. I know that is not possilbe but that would be nice to see.
      No matter how many engagements Kate does there will always be some to think she does not do enough.

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    4. Anon 7:59, KUDOS to you. Excellent point which does stand on it's own and is not minimized by bringing a "Mrs" into the argument. :)

      Philly, I agree! And anyone with an appreciation of the BIG picture should recognize the importance of it.

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    5. Philly,

      Please don't discount the fact that working mothers can and do provide the very same and raise emotionally grounded, secure, responsible little beings as well.

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    6. KUDOS to Anon in Leo. Your argument is the only one that really makes logical sense. You put it perfectly! No one is saying that it is bad that Kate is taking extra 'time off', but she is no where near taking maternity leave since there is no leave to take it from. Calling her a working mom is a disservice to actual hard working moms. I am sure most women would love to stay at home, but sadly they have to earn. money in order to support and raise their families. That luxury is something Kate is lucky in and even. more lucky with a housekeep/nanny/mom helping. And you were right, the Bill Gates argument is not the same as Will and Kate would survive on the public's money. They have to find a balance since the monarchy needs the public's love in order to thrive.

      Bluhare, thank you for saying that!

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    7. Bluhare, you should start watching Downton Abbey, worth it;)

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    8. Maggie - Minneapolis13 April 2015 at 18:38

      Stephanie - YES!! It is also incredibly sexist to imply that the Prince of Wales would have been more grounded and a better person if his mother worked less. Wow. Again, I have no problem with Kate taking time to get to know her new child and to help George adjust. She has every right to do that. But to say that it's necessary in order to raise a child well, or that a different mother didn't raise her child well because she chose to dedicate her life to work, is just so, so unfair to the millions of working mothers who are brilliant at their jobs and at raising their children. There are a lot of reasons people turn out the way they do. One could make the argument that Prince Charles is the way he is because of the luxuries that are provided for him simply because of the family he was born into. If that doesn't cause a sense of entitlement, I don't know what does. But mothers can work and still have their children grow up to be wonderful people. It could also be said that Prince Charles works so hard because that's the standard his mother has always set for him. Whereas with Kate and William, they are setting a bad example for George. I'm not saying this is true!! I'm just saying that iti s incredibly silly to put that much responsibility on the parents, and that if you're going to do that, it goes both ways.

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    9. Sorry to hear Bluhare that you haven't watched Downton Abbey. It is a very well written drama depicting life at the turn or the century and during and after WWI. It follows history fairly closely and accurately. It does represent life both upstairs and down stairs. Yes, not all big homes were run this way, but many were and give a good base for understanding how things were done then and how it has evolved. Also a good base where many of the "rules" that prevail in the Royal Family.

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    10. 'Downton Abbey'; the costumes and recreation of the period is good, but as for the plot/dialogue......rather disappointing and unrealistic.

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  31. I think it is quite nice that this time around there are more "rules" for the media and that William and Kate want to savor this event and have it be a family event rather than a media event. While I will miss seeing Kate in engagements earlier than "autumn" I respect her decision and desire to spend time as a mother of two young children. I am so excited for the upcoming weeks and the pending birth of the baby ~ I am still hoping for a girl, but we'll see. It would be wonderful if a little girl was born on the Queen's birthday April 21, but somehow I think the little one will come later in the month. Thanks again for the nice post.

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  32. I think it's a really good thing that the media are not going to be allowed to "camp out" for weeks in advance. It is indeed a family moment and they should be awarded some privacy. I really hope it's a girl, mostly because girls have much cuter clothing than boys and with Catherine's incredible taste in clothing, I know their daughter would be beautifully dressed as well. I think George will be thrilled with either a brother or a sister, at least until the sibling gets big enough that he'll have to share his toys. Sometimes the first child struggles with that when the next child comes along.

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    1. Lynn Georgia USA13 April 2015 at 02:45

      I think George will be jealous of more than toys--and I don't think he'll be thrilled at all the first couple of weeks--but he'll adjust just fine with time--and I think he and his brother/sister will be very close.

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  33. Girl, born 23 April. My bet :)

    Camilla

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  34. This ties in with the thoughts expressed on the recent 'Reinventing the Royals' that Prince William is a tad 'controlling'.

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    1. Liz,

      Thats interesting...i havent heard that rumor before. I would have to say that after watching thier engagement interview, it was clear from the banter they exchanged, kate may be wearing the pants equally. She wasnt afraid to call him out on his "she likes me because Im so funny" comment...which in turn i thought was quite cool on Catherine's part. IMO, she might have a knack for deflating his head if it gets a little too big....checks and balances lol.

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    2. Hello jenndog: it was a British journalist who stated that Prince William was very 'controlling'

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  35. As some of you already pointed out those years when the kids are still young go by so fast and I wouldn't do it any different way if I was in Catherine's position. Good for her to be able to focus on her young family.

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  36. Maggie - Minneapolis12 April 2015 at 20:33

    I'm a little interested to see what happens when it's announced that Kate is in labor - while I completely understand their decision to ban the media from taking their positions outside the hospital until she's in labor, isn't there a chance that there will be complete madness in front of the hospital when they are allowed to take position? All media personnel will be in a huge rush to take position in front of the hospital and report on the labor/birth, and I can't imagine that will go entirely smoothly. There will be traffic issues as well since they will all have to get to the hospital - what if someone sick needs to get to the hospital during that time? I honestly don't know how much of an issue that would be - am interested in hearing other people's thoughts.

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    1. don't know if my previous post was published. I am just learning how to do this. Hope my IPhone cooperates this time. Most hospitals have protocols for crowd control. I am surprised thise didn't seem to be in effect for Georges birth. I read that they are assigning positions within the news area to various vendirs so I also hope they have orchestrated how and when those assignments will be filled.
      the various news vendors may have to go to their area in a certain order at a certain time. They had the streets organized and secured for the Royal wedfing, certainly they can get this organized better this time.

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  37. I also feel that if it is a boy they will name him ALBERT. perhaps Albert John Philip? or Albert Philip Charles?

    If it is a girl, CHARLOTTE FRANCES ELIZABETH or CHARLOTTE DIANA ELIZABETH

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    1. Charlotte and Diana were both names of princesses who met tragic early deaths. I don't think either of those names will be chosen, though there might be some way to recognize Diana if the baby is a princess. Frances could be a better choice. Unfortunately, the beautiful name Charlotte probably is still off limits, even after nearly two centuries.

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  38. Kate hasn't even gone into labor yet and the work debate is on. Ugh.

    Wouldn't it be nice if women could just be happy for other women and wish them well. I recognize that Kate has a very privileged life and will never have to worry about some of the things that I do, but I am happy to cheer her on in her role of wife, mother, and future Queen. And whatever it is that she does during the time that some folks categorize as "not working", well I suspect it's a lot more productive, and positive, than putting someone else down as a hobby.

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    1. Oh royalfan, royalfan…..

      Firstly, the debate over how much work Kate does will go on regardless of labor or not. This will continue until Kate starts working more, whether you agree or not. I was hopeful for Kate in the beginning and like a lot of people have become very disappointed. Kate has a great platform to work from and so far she spends most her time shopping and vacationing. That doesn’t mean I don’t like Kate. I think she is pretty and seems like a nice, polite, shy woman who could do great things for the Monarchy. I just think her work ethic is bad (even before becoming a Royal). I am hopeful that down the road she will do more, but until then I think she is just enjoying the life of a Royal without giving back much. That is how a lot of followers view it until she changes. Again, that doesn’t mean we don’t like her, just how she approaches work.

      Secondly-Wouldn’t it be nice if you didn’t like a conversation or agree with the topic, that instead of telling it to go away, you rather just ignore it? I understand that for you, Kate is your idol. That has become abundantly clear from many of your comments. Which is fine for you, but you don’t see me saying that you should stop worshiping Kate as a hobby, do you? I don’t see how that is any better. Worshiping can be just as annoying as being critical if not more so! But no one is telling you to stop only making adoring comments, and nor should they because that is your view.

      Thirdly- No one is bashing Kate as a hobby. I get tired of critical comments being seen as putting someone down. They are critical, and a lot of the time realistic, but that is hardly putting someone down. And no one is doing it as a hobby!!! Bashing is putting down the person as a person. No one is attacking Kate saying she is a bad human being and what not. Charlotte wouldn’t allow those comments, nor should she. That is what the DM is for. We keep having this discussion and going around in circles. I thought after Charlotte posted how all comments are welcome, just be civilized with them, that it put an end to this, but apparently not. I would suggest if you don’t like the ‘work’ threads or the critical comments than just breeze over them. If they upset you that much, just ignore them, otherwise just have a civilized debate. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and while you may think yours is better than the critical ones, others may not. I breeze over the comments that are always adoring from the same commenters just as I ignore the more negative ones that don’t seem appropriate. This blog is about all view -points, not just the blind adoration ones (we already mentioned the blog for that). So, honestly, wouldn’t it be nice if you just let everyone have an opinion without expecting them to be along the same line as yours? I actually enjoy the variety of opinions regarding Kate and have found sometimes they change my original view. I feel like you post comments like this all the time and it comes across as though you are looking down on other’s opinions. Please allow each to have their opinions without expecting them all to be worshipping Kate. I don’t expect you to change your view, so allow other’s theirs.

      Oh and you can still be happy for someone while being critical, it is possible. Royal fan this is in no way a personal attack on you. I just wish you would allow all comments on this site and not just expect the adoring ones. It's like playing a broken record. Thanks

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    2. Caroline in Montana13 April 2015 at 02:01

      I agree with every word!

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    3. Maggie - Minneapolis13 April 2015 at 04:08

      Royalfan, are you seriously comparing the 5-10 minutes per day it takes to comment on this blog to the months that Kate spends without doing appearances? I'm not really trying to get involved in the work debate this time because I do think every woman deserves the right to spend time with her child after it is born, but come on, let's not go overboard here. Think whatever you want about whatever Kate does in her free time (although please acknowledge that your claim that its productive is an assumption just as much as it is for others to say that it isn't productive), but let's try to be realistic here. Especially since you don't know anything about our lives and how productive we are.

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    4. Maggie - Minneapolis13 April 2015 at 04:12

      Also royalfan, you commenting on Kate being productive is just as non-productive as it is for others to say she isn't being productive.

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    5. Maggie - Minneapolis13 April 2015 at 04:12

      So can we stop with the ad-homs now and just respect the fact that people have differing opinons? Please?

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    6. I'm a long time reader but I never comment though I read the comments section and love it. I wanted to comment finally though and say all opinions should be respected. Everyone opinion is an assumption about kate, even the positive ones. Therefore theirs are no more valid than the critical ones. We are all just reading into Kate's life and talking about how we assume things are with her since Kate is such an enigma. No one really knows anything concrete about Kate. Her life, marriage, royal duties and even personality are a mystery, so we all are assuming things. People need to lighten up. CuriousKat I think you stated it perfectly! Just wanted to throw my 2 cents in

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    7. CuriousKat
      So nicely written, I agree with you. But nothing will change, sorry.

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    8. I wasn't telling it to "go away", I was expressing my opinion on the direction yet another post is going in. (I have read that we are all entitled to express them.) Also, it isn't "differing opinions" that I object to or feel threatened by, it's some of the persistent bashing that I find frustrating, and work is one of the favorite topics. And yes, since commenting on this blog isn't time we spend working, and some of the participation is generally negative towards Kate, it does come across as an activity some people must enjoy.

      Just my observations based on following the blog and reading the comments.

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    9. I'm an American so forgive me for not understanding why this is such a debate. Does the UK not have stay at home moms? Does every mom work after their maternity leave and leave their children in day care or with nannies?

      I'm a stay at home mom with an active toddler and pregnant with our second. I'd be livid if someone said the negative things about me that they say about Kate. Who says she has to work? Her clothes are bought by Prince charles. Her homes were given to her because of whom she married. She's married to the future King. Of course she'll live in a fancy palace! Do people expect them to live in a crappy apartment until he takes the throne? Her biggest expense is security, and of course they can't give that up. Of course she has housekeepers. Those palaces are huge, and it's not like they can be seen as messy as my house is! Plus, we all know we'd be hiring the same help if we could. So why judge her for making the obvious choice?

      I'd love the sort of help she has. My mom will be staying for a month when our next baby is born and I'm trying to find a house cleaner. I'm not lazy at all. I'm exhausted and trying to spend as much time as possible with my daughter. I would definitely consider a mothers helper/nanny if we had the funds to do so!! It's really hard spending all day with a crazy toddler. Regular errands are darn near impossible, let alone getting the chance to work out a bit.

      I guess my big question is: who says she has to work? She obviously enjoys full time motherhood. And raising a child is HARD! Of course many moms work and raise a family, but she has the ability to choose to stay home! Why is there so much anger for someone who makes that choice?

      -Jessica in Los angeles

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    10. Caroline in Montana13 April 2015 at 17:41

      I should have made myself more clear above, I agree with every word that royalfan is saying. CuriousCat in your words - "Secondly-Wouldn’t it be nice if you didn’t like a conversation or agree with the topic, that instead of telling it to go away, you rather just ignore it?" "I would suggest if you don’t like the ‘work’ threads or the critical comments than just breeze over them. (you could have done this as well) Everyone is entitled to their opinion and while you may think yours is better than the critical ones, others may not." works both ways. there are a few commentators that i just cant read anymore, i see their names and skip them because they just try to stir the pot. my 2 cents, better let me have it now - and i agree with the folks who would like a "like button" - Caroline in Montana

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    11. For me, it wasn't the comment per se, it was the "ugh". I'd love to see the responses if I went around doing that to comments I don't agree with. I hope you don't think it's OK to go around saying "ugh" to everyone's comments, Caroline.

      We do go round in circles and we will never agree on some things. And that's OK with me; apparently not with some others. It's the impoliteness that gets to me. And here we are having the conversation again.

      Jessica, the disagreement comes in because Kate is a member of the royal family and they support the monarch in her role. Kate and William don't do a lot of that (although I do agree Kate's really upped her game this year and I don't care if she takes time off after having the baby), but it's not as simple as whether she should or shouldn't work. They are supported by the British people, either directly by security costs or indirectly via housing subsidy and other items, and the disagreement comes with whether they do enough to offset their costs. Some of us think they don't, and some think they do.

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    12. Oh my gosh Caroline. I didn't 'let her have it'. This is why I am saying people need to relax! Royalfan constantly tells people what they should post and frankly I am sick of it. If people want to have a critical discussion about Kate, then that is their perogative. I do ignore threads all the time, but I have been ignoring royalfans' for too long about what comments should be allowed and I finally wanted to say something. If you read my above thread, I was actually quite nice about it. I never let anyone have it and you just saying that shows exactly what I have been saying about the Kate fanatics. I get tired of some of the critical discussions to but instead of complaining about them, I ignore them. So I am glad you to do. But at the same time I get tried of some of the idolizing discussions as well and ignore them. Honestly I am not really sure the point of your comment except for agreeing with Royalfan. Your quoting me only proved my point! I am a middle of the road fan with Kate and think all opinions are welcome. I'm sorry if you think that is the wrong thing to say. I have noticed critical fans and middle fans are actually accepting of all opinions even if they don't agree, but I can't say the same about the overly adoring ones. For the most part they are the ones who can get quite rude like Maggie said below. My post again was about letting all opinions be and I'm not sure why you found that so offensive. But you kind of proved my point.

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    13. Well CuriousKat, if you "didn't let her have it" I am not sure what it was!
      Please royalfan hang in there!!! I agree with all you have said and support your views including your "ugh". I love Charlotte 's blog until it comes to the same old - same old bashing comments from the same predictable people. Yes we are all entitled to our opinions including the "ugh"! As well as the opinion that this topic (Kate's work ethic) has been hashed beyond the necessary.

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    14. Curiouskat, I am a passive reader of this blog and never comment ( my English is not good enough) but I must intrude in this conversation. Caroline didn't find your post offensive, she just said you should follow your own advice, which by the tone of your subsequent comment you obviously haven't done. I must add that in all fairness, independently of the content of the comments (pro or anti Kate) I find the comments of the "critics"(specialty those who pride themselves very much on their objectivity) much more aggressive and unkind ( and usually longer) than those of the so called Kate-worshipers, royalfan included. Being right (or thinking you are right) doesn't mean you can't have good manners. F.

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    15. Wow this conversation has totally gotten out of hand. CuriousKat didn't let her have it. She just defended herself. Which is more than i can say for yours. Honestly, this is ridiculous. I'm on your side Kat and bluhare!

      Charlotte I think you should consider removing the 'anon' option. If someone can't back their comment with a name, that says something. Also it makes me think it's the same person over and over again. The anon comments seem the most aggressive and rude as well. Just a thought

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    16. Erin, why do you think many of us have gone to using the Anon moniker!!! For just the reason that has happened to royalfan. She is just a little braver than some of us and I give her all the credit. What is the difference between using a made up moniker or anon 12:00

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    17. Royalfan - there are many anon's with you!

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    18. Thank you! And I can appreciate where some of you are coming from. :)

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    19. Anon @ 2:24, actually I believe those who are critical of Kate would use the anon moniker. They are the ones who are always being attacked. Those who are always praising Kate are always fine. In regards to this thread, royalfan has made several comments about only wanting positive comments and someone stood up to her. This is very rare and she normally has nothing to fear. That is why I think the same person is 'anon' so it looks like she has more support. The adoring comments need not fear using their names, rather the critical commenters are the ones who get attacked and need to hide their names. I even remember awhile back, one commenter said the 'anon' is a critical person who just changed there name. So, the brave ones are the ones like Maggie and Moxie who are always attacked for stating their opinions. The ones who always praise Kate have nothing to fear. Either way, this is ridiculous and reminds me why I never comment.

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  39. A boy Albert "Bertie" April 22

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    1. The given name of King George VI was Albert. Since one son has been named George, I don't think another will be Albert, at least not his first name. Queen Victoria wanted all of her male descendants to have Albert among their names, after her dear departed prince, and some of them (the Duke of York, Prince Harry) still do. But not all.

      Since I was a little surprised by George's name, especially the continuation of Louis as well as Louise, it is hard for me to guess what names might be used, other than surely Elizabeth for a princess born in late April. And probably Philip for a boy.

      There has been a theory that cousins' names are avoided, but the Earl of Ulster's name is Alexander, and I believe there is a George in the Spencer family. The Earl of Wessex (whose initials spell Earl) has Louis as his fourth name.

      Prince George's name is very traditional and, although second children often are given more imaginative names than first children, I suspect this child's name will be as well.

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  40. Balbina - Austria13 April 2015 at 01:59

    I really, really like Helena for a girl. Princess Helena would sound lovely. George & Helena. Just too cute.
    Queen Victoria had a daughter by that name.
    Also nice to include in the name would be: Eliza or Isabel. Both have the Elizabeth connection.
    But I too have the strong feeling it would be a Charlotte or Alexandra or Mary or Alice. If it's a girl...: )

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  41. The timing of a book ( "The Adventures of Alice Laselles by Alexandrina Victoria Aged 10 and 3/4 tells of a girl..."/authored by the then young Victoria) to be published is an interesting coincidence. The royal Obstetricians might be allowed to inform the Queen; she could have some say with the knowledge of gender of the baby and the possible name, Alice? Last time the names W&K selected matched the bookies choices in the order of the first three names ( If I remember correctly). Coincidence or planned, it also has three of the names of Diana's three siblings offspring names.

    Prince George's quote was so cute, " Daddy is not there", confusing China and china. ( source: britishroyals.info). This web site has link through them and that is how I discovered it a few years ago. With all the links available there, this one is the only one I check and occasionally the official web site of D&D of Cambridge. Here, it has every thing, interesting commentators and a moderator who had managed to keep up including a well balanced variety of history, art, style and current events. If I have to rush, I have three outstanding favorite bloggers here I look for and make sure I read.

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  42. Charlotte I am sure you know this, but just in case, there has been another Kate sighting on Instagram :). She is in the car and wearing what looks like a lime green sweater. If it is really her, that will be a new color I believe.

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    1. CuriousKat, will you post a link to it?

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    2. http://worldofwindsor.tumblr.com/

      I hope that link works. This site has the new photos of Kate and George together as well. The photo of Kate in the car is about halfway down the page. Hope that helps :)

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  43. Catherine is wealthy. She will be wealthy without the UK taxpayer, but even if she was not there is nothing right or better about what a man or a woman choses to do with their time. The complaints on this site seem to be that the tax payer is paying for her lifestyle and therefore she must do do X amount of work. Well, she is not, so her boss should just fire her, according to the posts on this site. However she will still be able to afford Nanny's galore and housekeepers etc etc. The complaints that she does not work for her keep are just so bizarre. Who actually works for there keep, I will happily get into Marxist economic debates with any of you. Please this is all just so repetitive, you do not like what she does, so once you have stated that get on with it. My goodness.

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    1. You're turning this into a debate about Marxist philosophy? Really?

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    2. truly. Really?
      I just wish people would Google civil list, Britain, and find out for themselves that the monies for the civil list basically belong to the Royal family to begin with and the civil list has acted in essence like a trust fund for them. That way we might not have to study Marxism. :)
      whew

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  44. there a nere photos in the duchess of cambridge and prince george spreed in new idea where prince harry was cover

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  45. The topic "Royals at work" is a sort of black hole, keeping us and our conversation and making a long spaghetto of it. A long, endless, useless spaghetto. So, we need some sauce to put on it, as to make it more tasteful: in my mind, that means to make it more clear and understandable. A lot of questions arise, indeed: what does it mean "work"? what does it mean "privilege"? what does it mean "charity"? what is the difference between a royal and a commoner? is it larger or narrower than the difference between rich people and middle class people? Saying "rich people", do we mean rich people getting their wealth from work or from birth?

    Well, I think that privilege means not the same thing for each of us. For me, privilege is to live in peace, in a quiet country home, in a small house with a lot of books and a good internet connection. I just need a few square meters to be happy, a larger house would mean to have a lot of work to do: no matter if you have a helper, you will always have to see and tell what she/he has to do, very boring and a waste of time. Few clothes, nice and comfortable, as to not have the problem where to case them, how many closets would be needed... For me privilege is to stay in a lonely place, far from crowds, making my own meals and enjoying my beloved's presence. For me, a royal life would be really difficult to bear, a burden in which I would feel really uncomfortable. Is it a privilege to meet famous people? IMHO, not such a great one: the best the stars can do are their artworks and their movies, if you meet them in person you will be deceived, 90% of times.

    Another very important question: do have all women the right to stay with their babies as long as possible? isn't it a work they might be payed for? Isn't it a great work to rise happy children, in order to build a good, well balanced society? Why women are so prone to underestimate this kind of work? Is it more important to let alone our children and to stay in a factory to build cars and all kind of objects to sell and to devastate our poor planet? I think we might evaluate mother's work. Of ALL mothers in the world. It must be well payed. Lots of loads of money :)

    We all are living in a planetary show, and we think that only visible things exist. But sometimes we are wrong.

    IMHO, it's better to earn less money and have more time to give to our dears. Of course, a lot of money is needed to make our children live comfortably; but sometimes we might think whether is it more important to give them a new car or a smiling mum.

    Of course, the answer I am giving are not the only ones, and there is so much more to say. But it could be very interesting to hear other opinions. As always, talking about Kate is talking about ourselves.

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  46. Anon 6:09 you make some good points - and so I ask you - why should this woman be celebrated and honored? If she is providing no service to the tax payer (UK and Commonwealth citizen) then why should anyone care what she does, how she does it and what she wears? Is it not just as bizarre to be a fan and praise someone who does nothing for you and society? I've always been fascinated by the position that "Kate and William will have plenty of time to do stuff for us when they are older and the children are grown" that gets tossed around. Why were they given public housing in London if not to do some work for the UK? Pretty bizarre to just be giving folks palaces for no good reason. Finally, I will posit that "Kate looks pretty" is repetitive and according to your theory of commenting, once folks have stated that, they should "get on with it" as well.

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    1. Maryland Moxie - that may be your opinion and what you believe, but it is not reality. Kate IS married to a future King and raising another King. As long as the UK retain the Monarchy she will hold a respected place in and earn money for the UK. She is providing a service to the taxpayer and the people of the UK..

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  47. I'll go against majority and say I hope it's a boy! Would be very cute for George to have a brother so close in age. My daughter was born 4 months before Prince George, and her little sister is due 4 months after baby Cambridge #2!! I'm excited for her to have a sister so close in age!

    Jessica in Los Angeles

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  48. Helen from Wiltshire13 April 2015 at 17:33

    The only thing that surprises me about the announcements is the use of the easel again. I always understood that this was only used to announce the births of future monarchs. Prince William's birth was announced on the easel, for example, but Prince Harry's announcement was strapped to the Buckingham Palace railings, as were the announcements for Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie. I always assumed that the second (and any other) Baby Cambridge would be treated the same way as Prince Harry, but maybe there's just too much risk of damage to the notice these days.

    I, too, worry about the mad scrum that might happen outside the hospital when Kate is admitted. At least when the press were turning up at different times for Prince George's birth, there was less chance of an accident happening. I understand the reasoning behind the decision, but part of me will miss the long rolling coverage, it really built the sense of excitement - a bit like people sleeping in the streets before a royal wedding.

    Can't wait to find out what she has! Am hoping for a girl but suspect it might be another boy, but then I thought Prince George was going to be a girl, so what do I know! I'm really intrigued to know what they would call another son, as most traditional royal boys' names are either already in use or have some kind of negative associations, like David (abdication), Richard (the Third), etc. I guess, to use Kate's own words, it's not long now!

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  49. Maggie - Minneapolis13 April 2015 at 18:34

    Anon at 1:58 in a thread said people are "bitching" about Kate's work, or perhaps lack thereof. Seriously? Yet another example of the fact that the only thing that is downright depressing and constant on this blog is the put-down of people who find it okay to criticize, not actual criticism of Kate. I've only ever seen Kate-lovers make personal attacks; never people who tend to criticize Kate. Just something to think about.
    And royalfan, before you make your usual argument about affording that same respect to Kate - no one says she's "bitching" about anything. No one makes the kind of attacks that you and others have made toward other posters. People present rational arguments for why it SEEMS like she isn't doing work. And, this is a blog about Kate.
    This is seriously getting excessive. People have differing opinions! How hard is it to understand. I always welcome thought out responses to my arguments. But ad-homs are not arguments, they are just baseless attacks. Please stop. It's uncalled for. Again, people sometimes will disagree with you. It's a part of life.

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    1. Yankee from California13 April 2015 at 22:20

      Maggie, I have been personally attacked here a few times and I am a Kate Fan. Royalfan has as well. I would say that's what you just did in your post. There's plenty of complaining going on with both sides. Perhaps it's not as noticeable when those who are critical of Kate do it because you happen to agree with them but it happens just as frequently. I don't happen to agree with many critical comments because I am pretty okay with what Kate does. I don't often care if someone disagrees, it's their right. But when a poster says someone "worships" Kate, that's over the line and the inference is pretty rude. That can't be spun any other way. If Kate's choices offend or confuse some here, that's okay. For me, she makes a lot of sense. I don't mop or vacuum, I pay someone else to do that. My mother cared for my kids when they were little because I worked outside of the house (by choice). I'm pretty sure she was more exhausted than me most days, but she loved it and I appreciated her immensely. My family is extremely close so Kate's family life makes perfect sense to me and isn't dysfunctional, in my opinion. I know others disagree. I wish those people knew how great it feels to have such a relationship, it probably wouldn't seem so odd to them, but that's okay and I won't judge them for their lifestyle. Obviously, my situation is vastly different from Kate's because I'm not subsidized by the government and I understand this is a big part of the problem for some. On the other hand, she has to contend with a lot of negatives mere mortals like me don't need to worry about.

      You are asking for people to accept others' opinion, but when Royalfan presents her opinion, you respond with an inference that she isn't "rational" and that she "attacks" people. Pretty brutal when you say you "always welcome thought out responses." I don't read her comments as anything other than "thought out." How is it okay to criticize her for your perception of her comments when your response is exactly what you just scolded her for. Again, the over-used generalization that only the Kate Fans criticize dissenters is completely untrue as you illustrated.

      I think your last paragraph is a good one for everyone to consider. If we could all be more respectful, maybe we could get a long. And if we could approach each comment (or most of them!) from a positive place, I think we'd find we actually agree more with what the commenter actually meant than what we THINK they meant. I know this from personal experience here. I mean, heck, if I can read Moxie's :-) comments without tearing all of my hair out, you should be able to handle Royalfan! :-) You might actually find that you agree on a thing or two.

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    2. Yankee, thank you for the support. I appreciate it. :))))

      General response here...

      I have expressed frustration with some of the persistent negativity while always trying to emphasize *some* because I did not want words to be put into my mouth about disliking opposing opinions. I have also stated, more than once, that I too would be bored with comments that are strictly sugarcoated. I have never called anyone a hater although, on more than one occasion, I read comments about sycophants, worshippers, Kate-lovers, 15 year old fan girls, etc. The last observation was made regarding positive comments made on another blog...and about another blog. Not a tad personal, right? We have been told to just scroll past comments, or directly told to stop it or lighten up. And this doesn't qualify as telling people what to do? If you say so ladies.

      On the other hand, if speaking up when I think Kate's ponytail has been yanked excessively makes me a fan-girl, well, I'm good with that. It's a healthier option. :))

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    3. Wow Maggie, please re-read your post. Yes and we also disagree with the constant bashing you and others give to Kate and family and that is in my opinion also "uncalled for". Royalfan did not refer to you by name, why did you feel the need to single her out. Also, while you think they are "rational arguments" you are giving they do not appear to be rational to many of us. You also do not like it when we come in with the rational arguments the Will is only second in line to the throne, or that Kate has every right to be a stay at home Mom. Or that some of us do think that she does things behind the scene or that having fittings for clothes is as much part of her job as it would be for a model. Our opinions are on the positive side MOST of the time! ( at least until this attack on royalfan). Not constantly negative as are yours and others. I don't think I have ever seen anything but criticism from you

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    4. Thank you for countering some arguments, Anonymous.

      First of all, William is only second in line to the throne, yet his engagements, compared to others who are lower down in the pecking order are much lower than theirs. Same with Kate.

      Kate would have had every right to be a stay at home mom if she hadn't married the second in line to the throne, She's the future of the monarchy and the people who can show her all the ropes are getting on in years. With privilege comes responsibilities too. She does not work a full time schedule (and a royal full time schedule would be a cakewalk for most of us); she does not work often at all, although she's really bumped things up this year which I was happy to see. I'd also like you to write my boss and tell him that shopping for clothes and making sure they fit me should count toward my work hours. I'm all over that one.

      royalfan, you used to have much more tolerance than you have now. You used to not make snide remarks instead of making a point. Now you do, and you're getting it thrown back at you. I used to enjoy going back and forth with you. Now I don't and I'm actually sad about that.

      I'd like to move on, and this is the last post I'm going to make on this topic. Because it's ludicrous, ridiculous, and makes this place look like a playground for three year olds.

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  50. I agree with the above comment Anon 13April@6:09 I think its bewildering that people keep slamming her for not working or if she does, not working enough??? She comes from a wealthy family, not all members of wealthy families choose to hold full time jobs or even work. The idea that the palace spin machine attempts to make it appear that they are normal working couple is silly but understandable given the political climate in the modern United Kingdom. The desire to appear humble, accessible and inclined to frugality and hands on parenting appeal to the public. The reality is quite different. People buy this spin hook, line and sinker and imagine her in a 9-5 scenario dropping George at day care and shopping on her lunch break. Reality is quite different from PR moves. I am certain the Duchess is a lovely person but she is not like most middle class working people. And I don't think she should apologize for it, but simply enjoy the amazing life she has been blessed with. At the end of the day you realize, you can't please everyone and you'll drive yourself crazy trying.

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    1. I agree with you anon 19:30. I am not sure it is the spin doctors at KP as it is them using terms that are used in everyday life today. Maybe they should just Kate will not be doing any public engagements for her charities until ..... Instead of using the term "maternity leave". I for one have never expected Kate should work a 40 hour week. She is not like me and that is what makes her appealing. Maybe we should say she handles her "role" well instead of using the term "job". After all it is her "role" to be the wife and mother of a future King.

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    2. IMO terms like maternity/paternity leave (etc...) are used to make Kate and/or William more relatable. The problems arise when folks try to apply their reality or "version" of it to Kate's life.

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  51. regarding the ongoing debate about kate working or not working and she and the rest of the Royal family being supported by the government, once you understand the civil list and the history of it you will find that the monies from the civil list belong to the Royal family in the first place. It is in essence a trust fund for them. Google civil list, Britain
    and find out for yourself.

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  52. Charlotte, I love your blog and the openness you give to commenters. However, I think this last thread is getting a little too personal. I am not talking about the comments calling for equal opportunity to voice opinions. Rather, the ones in response to those that are honestly quite rude. There are several 'anon' comments that just take it too far. It is getting to the point with all these 'anon's that they are bullying the rest of us. And I still believe most of the 'anon' are the same person. This last thread has become quiet unpleasant due to the bullying. I get where Royalfan and Curiouskat are coming from and Kat's response I thought was well written and not at all rude. Just calling for those who really admire Kate to respect all opinions, which include Royalfan. However, after that, the responses have more been from a bullying standpoint, with people saying they are on Royalfan's side. Which is ridiculous. Is this the schoolyard where the majority are ganging up against someone with a different opinion and personally attacking them now??? So much for diversity of thought!!! Honestly, now I know why I never comment here. If anyone has a different opinion they are bullied until they stop commenting which is what some of these 'fans' are doing and want. It is frustrating and some of the more bullying comments to the commenters I wish you would not allow through. The conversations should only be about Kate and all opinions should be respected. It has gotten way to judgmental. Thank you.

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  53. Hello everyone,

    Following a number of requests, I've decided not to post any more comments on this thread. It's becoming very personal and it's best to move on.

    Thank you all!

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  54. I'm hoping for Victoria Elizabeth Diana. That would be a beautiful name.

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