Friday, 14 November 2014

New York, New York: The Cambridges Are Going to America!

We have exciting news to share with our readers (especially for those in New York and Washington DC): the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge are visiting America from 7-9 December. Originally planned as a solo trip for Prince William, it was decided Kate would accompany her husband now she is feeling better and support causes close to her heart, too.


No doubt both William and Kate are very much looking forward to visiting the Big Apple - it will mark the first time either of them has visited the city. New York is a fabulous place, particularly so at this time of year, I've heard, as the festive season approaches.


The couple last visited the USA in 2011 when they spent a couple of days in California following their first overseas joint tour in Canada.


A rather excellent itinerary has been organised encompassing charities supported by the royals and events to honour their host country. More from the official press release:

'Their Royal Highnesses will travel to New York for a programme of engagements which will also see the Duke visit Washington DC for a day, while the Duchess remains in New York.
 The Duke and Duchess will attend events on behalf of the Royal Foundation and other charities with which Their Royal Highnesses are closely associated, and also on behalf of HM Government.
 The charitable themes will including promoting sustainable conservation issues with a particular focus on collaborative working to tackle the illegal wildlife trade, and also supporting organisations which reflect Their Royal Highnesses' interest in young people's mental health and the importance of supporting disadvantaged young people from an early age.'

The Duke and Duchess will arrive in New York on Sunday, 7th December and will attend a private engagement on behalf of the American Friends of the Royal Foundation that evening.

Monday, 8 December

William will travel to Washington DC, while Kate remains in New York. The Prince will attend an anti corruption conference at the World Bank to discuss a zero tolerance approach to the transportation across borders of illegal wildlife parts. This is a key area of work for the United for Widlife consortium, of which William is president.

United for Widlife

Upon his return William will attend a reception organised by the Royal Foundation, in recognition of the conservation work carried out by Tusk Trust and United for Wildlife partners, Widllife Conservation Society, Conservation International and the Nature Conservancy.

Meanwhile, Kate will carry out two solo engagements. The Duchess will be accompanied by the First Lady of New York City, Chirlane McCray, on a visit to a local child development centre. They will learn about how this organisation fosters the healthy development of children and families by providing high-quality mental health and organisational services.


Afterwards, the Duchess will attend a lunch hosted by the British Consul General in New York to celebrate the achievement of the successful British community in New York from the culture, arts, hospitality and business sectors.


In the evening, Their Royal Highnesses will attend an NBA Basketball game to help launch a new collaboration between United for Widlife, the Royal Foundation and the National Basketball Association (NBA). The couple will have the opportunity to see the Cleveland Cavaliers and the Brooklyn Nets play. (Do we have many supporters of these teams reading?)

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Tuesday, 9 December

On Tuesday, 9th December, the Duke and Duchess will visit a youth organisation to see the work they carry out in partnership with an inner city youth development foundation. During the visit, William and Kate will learn about the wide-ranging services on offer to young people to help them reach their potential, particularly through the arts-in-education model that supports the artistic and intellectual development of the participants.


Next, the couple will attend an event celebrating the wealth of British talent in the creative industries based in New York. The reception will be in association with the UK Government's GREAT Campaign. Readers may recall Kate attended a GREAT event during the London 2012 games.


The final engagement of the visit will be the University of St. Andrews 600th Anniversary Dinner at the Metropolitan Museum of Art. The evening will support scholarships and bursaries for students from under-privileged communities, new student sports facilities in St. Andrews and investment in the university.

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Of course, William is patron of the campaign and the couple have participated in events supporting it in the UK. William and Kate met at St. Andrews, obtained their degrees, forged friendships and enjoyed very happy years there - it's very fitting to see their continued support of the university.


One important engagement not listed on the itinerary is a visit to the National September 11 Memorial and Museum. One assumes this will be a private opportunity for the royals to pay their respects. More from the press release:

'The Duke and Duchess will also visit the National September 11 Memorial and Museum at the World Trade Center to pay their respects to the nearly 3,000 people who died in the attacks of the 26th February 1993 and 11 September 2001.'

I could not imagine a trip to New York not including such a visit. I don't think any of us will ever forget where we were when we heard of the attacks of 9/11. It's very important to remember and pay respects to those who so sadly lost their lives on that tragic day.

Martin from The Courtier Blog calculated there will be ten engagements in total.


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The itinerary looks very interesting, and it's such a treat for royal watchers to see the couple undertake another trip this year. In terms of fashion, New York is very much the place to be. Perhaps the Duchess will take a couple of hours to browse around Madison Avenue or Fifth Avenue for a spot of Christmas shopping?

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Speaking of fashion, what will Kate wear? We expect to see the Duchess give a nod to her host country by choosing a US designer at least once. During the recent royal tour in April, we saw Kate in Tory Burch, DVF, Lela Rose and Michael Kors - all possibilities for the trip. Kate will need a selection of coats and dresses for engagements and perhaps a gown for the St. Andrews gala.


For our readers in New York, are you excited about the royal visit? Do you hope to catch a glimpse of William and Kate while they are there?

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Which events are you most looking forward to?

199 comments:

  1. First of all, I am so glad they make it together. They can support great causes, enjoy themselves, relax a little without George, watching NBA ohhh they are so lucky!! Also a heavy schedule for 3 days.

    On fashion front I loved the Canadian tour I think she had the best gardrobe back then. No offence meant but these designers except for MC are not my fave at all. Let's hope for a better choice this time.

    Thanks for the always informative and quick posts! Have a lovely weekend!:)

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    1. Their schedule sounds anything but relaxing! But NY is a super place for getting energy ;)

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  2. How I wish I lived in NYC!

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    1. It's one of the nosiest and most polluted city in the word... So it's good for a trip, shopping, rest but living ... definitely no.

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    2. http://www.stateoftheair.org/2013/city-rankings/most-polluted-cities.html
      NYC doesn't crack the top ten most polluted in any category for US cities, and only makes the top 20 for ozone. It's a wonderful place to visit and like London, a fine place to live for those with plenty of money. Noise is relative, of course but I take it as sign of vibrancy.

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    3. Interesting link. Thank you, Greybird.

      And it's not like W&K live in a bubble; they are familiar with the realities of city life.

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  3. As an American it was funny seeing on twitter the royal reporters calling the basketball game a basketball match lol
    They will see the best basketball player in the world play in lebron James its going to be a mad house at Madison square garden
    I wish they would come on a weekend so I could drive over to nyc to catch a glimpse of them!
    Can't wait for the visit!
    Sarah usa

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    1. The game is at the Barclay Center in Brooklyn.

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  4. I am happy that a mini tour is coming up for the Duke and Duchess and best of all they will be here in the USofA. Wow, I am excited. Best of all it is so awesome to be able to share my excitement with all the wonderful royal watchers on this blog.

    I am looking forward to your coverage Charlotte as your coverage of the last tour was excellent. During the last tour, I could not wait for the updates. I was bursting with excitement especially on the days when the Duchess did spectacularly well on her choice of outfit and we were ALL in agreement, well almost all. This will be a short tour compared to the last one but it is chockfull of appointments so there will be tons of photos and long posts from Charlotte!!! Can't wait!!!

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  5. I am excited because there's sure to be lots of TV coverage--something we in the US don't really get.

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    1. Theresa. New York14 November 2014 at 23:53

      Couldn't agree more. I am also very excited for my home state.

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    2. Yah, TV coverage is good, together with Charlotte, its a double dose! I am however, partial to Charlotte's because one can go back again and again to view it. I love to read and Charlotte writes well and gives good information, whereas TV is only a few seconds and you can be certain all the TV channels will have the same sound bite and few seconds of tape running in a loop and then it's gone.

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  6. So glad the rumors were true :) And the schedule is just superb. Really nicely done. And good that they seems to have put some breathing room for her in the days, not to wear her out. I like that they managed to get in a lot of different things. I wonder if they will run in to any celebs at the game. Would be fun to see a picture of them talking to Beyonce or something :P Haha. I also hope the thigamabob at the Metropolian will be a floor length gown event!

    Soo good to see that she is feeling better!

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  7. The Monday night basketball game is being played at the home of the Brooklyn Nets, Barclay Center which is 5 blocks from my apt. Wondering if I can catch a glimpse of her if go over there. Also, looked and there are 3,000 tickets still available and I even considered spending the $80 to be able to stand around with purpose.. and perhaps inside where it's warm.... I would really like to see her outside of my computer screen... although I have never done anything like this except for lining up on the street when I was in 3rd grade to watch President Kennedy drive by.

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    1. Yes, you should!! Buy the ticket and we can live vicariously through you :P

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    2. Yes, Jane R! Buy the ticket and be our personal Duchess Kate blog representative. I'll kick in for part of the ticket cost! Can't wait to hear from you if you decide to go! Katherine USA

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    3. When they came to Calgary I lined up at midnight to obtain a free "viewing" ticket passed out at 9am. Thankfully it was in the summer, so it wasn't that cold. Our choices were a blue or purple wristband. I chose the blue which enabled us to be maybe 20 feet away from them while they watched a mini-rodeo. I took some great photos of them and even heard Kate tell William to "be careful" when he went to have a closer look at the bulls. It was such a highlight for me. Do it. You will NOT regret it!

      - Shannon

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    4. I'm considering going too! I wonder what engagement would be the best to try and see them? Any ideas?
      I'm afraid they may be in box at the Nets so not sure if we could even see them from the regular seats.
      I'll definitely be thinking about it, but even if I don't do it, very exciting!

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    5. I heard they will be court side

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    6. Go if you can. I saw her in Manchester last year. Photos just do not show how beautiful she is.

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    7. I would love it if they were court side. But does that seem likely? (I know nothing about this stuff :P)

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    8. We NYC area readers should try and plan a meet up to try and catch a glimpse!

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  8. You did a wonderful job of detailing their visit, Charlotte. I give Kate a lot of credit for taking this on at this time. It's a packed schedule and NY isn't around the corner.

    But what a beautiful time of year to visit NYC! It's very tempting.......... :)

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    1. Charlotte, this is the best about the NYC trip. Thanks so much for it! I got pretty excited above with Brooklyn, NY, reader Jane R said she'd consider going to the NBA game to see Kate and forgot to tell you how much I enjoyed this posting! Katherine USA

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    2. It's only a 5 hour flight, nothing that strenuous. I think people are praising Kate to much for a few engagements. I honestly believe Kate is making a few more engagements because we are hardly going to see her in the first 6 months of 2015. She always takes January off. Then will make 1 or 2 appearances in February. She will probably take March and April off ahead of the baby followed by several months maternity leave. She is not doing anything that deserves credit.

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    3. Anon 22.41.
      I thought about this possibility too. She returned with "a lot of"engagements why? Probably she had enough being at home and she felt good enough to go out. But as one of them who thinks she could do more I think we should be happy that she is out and about. Thats what we have right now.

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  9. I am a huge basketball fan. They picked a good game to go to . They will be watching the very best the NBA has to offer. LeBron James. Not a fan of either teams, but not afraid to say who is the best. Heck if I lived there, i would spend the $80 for the tickets, take a binocular. :)

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  10. Just a tidbit.... :)

    In the center of third photo (from the bottom of this post), you can see the building Jackie Kennedy lived in...1040 5th Ave. Diagonally across from the Metropolitan Museum of Art.

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  11. Maggie - Minneapolis15 November 2014 at 00:09

    I am a HUGE basketball fan and very jealous they get to watch the best basketball player in the world (Lebron). The Nets are decent, so it'll be a good game. This tour confirms for me that Kate has been feeling a lot better, otherwise I cannot imagine they would have her travel to New York with a relatively full schedule. I think that she has been looking worse during the day than at night because she has lightened up a LOT on makeup for her day engagements, but has been keeping to her normal makeup routine for her night appearances, which are more glamorous. It amuses me a little to read comments about this schedule being good for not "wearing her out" or that it doesn't seem that relaxing. She's going to New York for 3 days with 6 engagements, of which one is a basketball game! I guess I just don't think a 30+ year old women needs that kind of coddling, even if pregnant.

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    1. Let's not forget the 3 days includes the flight from London to NYC and 2 private engagements (including the visit to the World Trade Center), in addition to the 6 public engagements. I think many of us hope the Cambridges have some free time to see and enjoy all that NYC has to offer, especially during the Christmas season. I hope they love the city and come back often, for many years, and bring their children. Terrye from Oklahoma

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    2. Well if you suffered the illness Kate had then you might think other wise. She is considered high risk pregnancy so yes she needs to be coodled or she could still lose the baby. So trying putting yourself in her place.

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    3. anon from Leominster15 November 2014 at 11:26

      I would presume that this can't be seen as too high risk for her or she wouldn't go. She wasn't originally intended to. It sounds like a full schedule but not an unduly heavy one.

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    4. Maggie, being that Midwesterners aren't coddled in the least for anything, let alone a difficult start to a pregnancy, and are perhaps the only remnant of the American populace that retains good common sense, I agree completely, Being medical, at this point, the odds of her "losing the baby" is virtually nil. The fact she's married to the heir to the British throne is what makes it "high-risk".

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    5. I think it is clear that this was a trip for William originally, and Kate wanted to go as well, so suitable arrangements were made to accommodate. Hence they are not particularly challenging. I don't think the RF planned this for her.

      I think she wanted this and put forth efforts to make there be reasons for her to go. This was originally a business trip for just William.

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    6. I agree Stephanie. This is not a business trip for her - she's there for fun. The lunches and receptions are what you pull together when a guest comes to town which is why the British Consulate is handling the duties. It's an opportunity to mix and socialize and make new friends - not promote British interests. The visits to the children's centers in the morning are a way to add gravitas to the party schedule. The NBA game and Gala at the Met for her alma mater are not work either - she's not coaching or organizing either event - she's a guest. She's going to two lunches, two evening parties - one private, one basketball game, and two children's centers. I'm not sure where the "work" is. :-)

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    7. Maggie - Minneapolis16 November 2014 at 02:37

      She shouldn't get to spend taxpayer/United States' money if this is for fun. Things like going to a basketball game, an alumni event, or visiting a memorial for a world-famous event are not "work" for me. Either way, I just don't think there should be concern about her exerting herself. This is not real work. This is her tagging along because she wants to see NYC (as per others). I don't blame her, but we shouldn't count things like a BASKETBALL GAME or a memorial visit as an official engagement. And let's be honest - if this was a high risk pregnancy, she would not be cleared to fly to Scotland, much less New York.

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    8. Thank you Moxie. I thought it was me because I don't see where the packed and grueling is either.

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    9. As I wrote I am happy they go together, they have lots of events, fun and business too.
      I think they always have or at least the last tour was rather fun. Nothing gruelling except the travelling part maybe.
      I would like to state I agree with you all who critise her not doing her share, but right now this is what we got.So I decided I wouldnt write every time how disappointed I am after certain events, decisions, her shopping trips because it is useless, pointless. Happens all over again.

      Rather I try to be happy that she is out and about and I know it is shallow but enjoy her fashion choices while I can. Anon predicted we will not see her much next year and I wholeheartedly agree she goes on a holiday, maternity leave etc.
      So we can continue arguing about her work ethic, hunting, nothing will change, writing the same thousand times, still nothing changes. Maybe this is not a good approach being happy about her out and about but I do not have a better idea.

      If I need a hero, an emblem, someone to look up to I check the Queen of England. She is always up to something really noteworthy;))

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    10. Moxie I have read numerous times that the Canada and LA tour was also largely accomodated to their wish to travel to America. I do think that some of the trips they do initially begin with their desire to visit exciting places, and then plans are put into place to support it.

      I might be wrong, but last I checked the itinerary some of her engagements were generic in description and specific locations were not revealed ie; childrens center... do you think it could be because they havent finalized placements for her?

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    11. Stephanie - most likely security reasons - William is going places with natural security built in - no one is getting into the World Bank who isn't suppose to be there. The children's centers aren't governmental places - press will most likely get notified shortly ahead of time. Same with the receptions - they can be held in the Consulate, private residences, or some swanky public place hired out.

      Maggie - I read an idea that the 9/11 Memorial might have been put on the calendar to appease the Americans and justify the expense of looking after 2 royals in 2 different cities. What makes this trip different from all their others this year - is they weren't officially invited by the country to be here. It's not "State" business on either side. The visit to the Memorial is good manners and diplomatic.



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    12. Very good points, Moxie! Thank you :)

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  12. I'm so excited TRH are visiting NYC! Hope I can catch a glimpse of them at the museum. It's the perfect venue for the art lover HRH

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  13. Rhonda, Wisconsin15 November 2014 at 02:05

    Hooray!!! I can't wait. We'll get to see them on the news every day. Not to mention Charlotte's great posts. Super excited and wish I could be in New York. Can't wait.

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  14. I am so excited that the Duke and Duchess are visiting America! And I'm a huge Cavs fan - so cool that they will be watching my hometown team! I've been to one Cavs game so far this season and will be going to another game in a few weeks. I feel like Kate and I have just one degree of separation now!!! 😃 (wishful thinking!) I'm really glad she seems to be feeling better and can make this trip with her husband too.

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  15. another fantastic post and detailed post looking forward to nyc they will be relaxing date for her im sure they will glimpse the museum and they really enjoy the trip without george they can relax and quite evening

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  16. this is so exciting! thanks for the great post charlotte!!

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  17. I wonder where they will stay? Waldorf?

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    1. Shantel (@FashionandFaith)16 November 2014 at 15:44

      The Waldorf at Christmastime...*sigh*
      This is so exciting; I'll definitely be glued to the coverage! I'm so happy that they will be able to visit such a wonderful city during such a magical time of year. The only thing that would make this better would be if they spent a day or two in Chicago (my hometown) or Minneapolis (where I live, now)! ;)
      I do hope that one of the children's centers that she visits will be the Harlem Children's Zone. Geoffrey Canada has done amazing things to help close the achievement gap and provide opportunities for inner-city youth.
      On to fashion: I do hope to see the Duchess in more Michael Kors and DVF during the tour. Both designers look great on her!
      Take care, everyone!
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    2. Anne in Manchester17 November 2014 at 09:56

      Am guessing that they will stay with the British Consul in New York as they usually do on visits to other countries. They already have security in place and is easier than them staying in a hotel

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  18. oh, i'm delighted about this, but even though i live in NY, NYC is like 4 hours by car from my house and i have a 2 year old, so i doubt i'll be going anywhere. my brother lives in DC and i'm sure he won't be skipping work to see william. also, i assume george will not be joining them? too bad, really. maybe next time they'll be along with two (or more) kids...

    i really look forward to the pictures from the trip, though. its nice to know they'll get a little taste of NY. i haven't been to the sept 11 memorial, yet, but it's on my list for next time i'm in the City. i can't believe they are going to an NBA game (i mean, i can. but still). college hoops is so much better. my city has a great team. i think they should come here. :-P

    Annie
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  19. I am going to try so hard to see them while they are in nyc... once in a lifetime experience!

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  20. Charlotte, thank you for such a detailed post regarding the upcoming trip. This is very exciting news! Wills and Kate take on NYC! It will be a very busy few days with engagements. I know they will be working and supporting their charities and foundation, but I do hope they take a couple hours at some point to take in a few of the sights of the city. It is absolutely beautiful this time of year! Christmas in NYC = divine. Wondering how I can slip away from the hubby and 4 kids to fly up and possibly catch a glimpse of them? Hmmm.

    I know this is definitely NOT a vacation or shop til you drop trip for Kate, but I know she loves a little retail therapy. Bloomingdale's, Saks, Macy's, Madison Ave., the options are amazing and endless to pick up a few Christmas gifts. Maybe Prince George will get a treat from FAO Schwarz. :)

    I'm hoping Kate will don a lovely gown at the Metropolitan Museum of Art. So many things to look forward to! Charlotte, thanks again for the exciting and informative post about the trip!

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    1. Do u think they will have time for private shopping or doing the tourist things. Seems a shame to be there n not have a chance to do it.

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    2. I vote for a visit to FAO Schwarz to pick up a treat for Prince George. What a great store? Awesome for children and adults. I use to work at an outfit that would hold events at the one in San Francisco, CA, what a treat! I am also looking forward to the MMA outing, too. Oh, the gowns!!!

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    3. Anonymous 18:59, I really do hope they have some time to do a bit of the tourist thing. New York at Christmas is AMAZING! I doubt we'll see them ice skating in Rockefeller under the Christmas tree, but catching a sight here or there and some shopping, a must.

      I LOVE FAO Schwarz! Even just walking around for the experience is so much fun! Prince George deserves a treat! :) My first thoughts on gowns was a McQueen or Jenny Packham, but I'm thinking now Kate might go with an American designer. CAN'T WAIT!!!!

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  21. Hello, I do you enjoy your site very much and the articles on the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge are always so positive which is nice, but I am going to break the mold a little. I find the trip to the USA and the meetings being held about wildlife conservation offensive to the intelligence to those who are in the UK and are full aware that the Duke of Cambridge and many other members of the royal family including the Duchess hunt and shoot animals at Balmoral; so please can you show this; in order that not everything is as it seems, you cannot care for one animal while shooting another.

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    1. I kind of agree in a way. But I will copy in the comment I wrote on the last post.

      "I am not for hunting. And I realize that it is a little PR disaster. BUT, he is against the illegal (or supposed to be illegal) hunting of animal on the verge of extinction. The animals he hunt is the ones that are lot's of. Here in Sweden we have special times to hunt elk etc. That's a way to keep the amount of each species lower to prevent starvation and illnesses in the remaining animals. I am not saying this is ok, or that I like it. But they are two different things."

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    2. i don't know what the royal families habits are, but in the US, people eat what they kill and only certain animals are allowed to be hunted at certain times of the year. deer, for example, can be hunted now. and there are rules about permissible gender and size. it thins the herd and fewer will starve over the winter. it's certainly more humane than raising pigs, cows, and chickens for slaughter, actually.

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    3. Being concerned about illegal trade of the organs of endangered species for the purpose of traditional "medicine" does not seem anything like choosing to hunt and consume one's catch. Now of course if you are a canvas-shoe wearing, hemp- skirted vegan, I can understand your disgust. But there is no hypocrisy here. I enjoy venison but donate to help organizations trying to save wildlife.

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  22. Amy, Detroit Michigan15 November 2014 at 16:00

    How fun. Poor things, having to watch an NBA game...pro basketball sucks, lol

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    1. They could enjoy some celebrity spotting :P

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    2. people will most certainly enjoy spotting THEM. :-)

      pro basketball is a bit of a drag, actually… but it IS pretty American. and much easier to follow (and much shorter in duration) than football. so i guess its an ok choice. but still. a college game would be much more fun!

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  23. I am not a hunter (and could never imagine being one) but I think many people make a distinction between hunting an animal--like deer, for example, which are over populated in many parts of the US--and preserving endangered species. Just like some vegans don't eat animal products because they are against killing animals and some don't eat meat for health reasons. Unless you are a Sufi (and even then) you will somehow be involved in the killing of animals--even if it's just to wear leather. Thus, in my opinion, William's opinion, is not necessarily hypercritical.

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  24. There is no difference between killing a deer that may be over populated in parts of the states, but not in the UK than killing an endangered specie; openily killing animals and then showing compassion to the outside world is hypercritical (thus putting Duke of Cambridge in that category).
    Maybe the Duke of Cambridge and other members of the Royal Family should come to the parts of the US that are over populated with deer and let him loose with a riffle.

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  25. I live in California but will be in New York the preceding week and am going to try to stay the weekend to see them. I also cannot agree that William is a hypocrite for promoting conservation while hunting. He is promoting conservation of endangered species, particularly the elephant and rhino. His own rhino was killed by a poacher, so no, I don't think this is posturing. There is a huge difference between fighting poaching of endangered species and hunting, particularly since the Royal family is known to eat what they kill. To say that he should not hunt and promote conservation is to say that anyone who is an active conservation must be a vegetarian.

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    1. A vegetarian, and someone who doesn't wear leather.
      No shoes, no bags. Also, if you don't eat eggs or milk because that industry hurt animals, you should steer clear of wool.

      William is not campaigning against eating animals - he's against killing endangered species.

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    2. Camilla, your last sentence sums it up *beautifully*. Short and sweet...and to the point.

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  26. I thought about "Kevin alone in New York" . Same place and same time of the year :)

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    1. Amy, Detroit Michigan15 November 2014 at 19:05

      This made me giggle

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    2. Oh, now, c'mon, it's not a packed schedule. Sunday is free for tourist visits and shopping and that "private engagement" is probably a party hosted by their friends the Beckhams - they are associated with William's conservation efforts. Monday, she'll pop into a center to see their work with children, but won't be there for long as she has lunch plans with Britain's NY "high society". Then she's free until she goes to a basketball game. Tuesday, repeat the formula - kids in the morning, lunch/reception with high society, break, another party in the evening for her alma mater. Unlike you and me, she doesn't have to drive herself, catch a cab, figure out the subway and deal with directions and parking. That's what makes most traveling exhausting.

      Sounds like a lot of fun. New York is very pretty at Christmas but don't expect crowds for "people watching" as the East Coast is experiencing a cold spell so standing outside waiting isn't going to be very pleasant. That's what media is for.

      Interesting to note: Eugenie has been living in New York for over a year. I wonder if Kate's recent interest is because James and Pippa have been enjoying the city.

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    3. I actually don't agree. It's not parties and lunches in the sense we usually mean. For example, when my dad comes home from an evening bowling with clients or from a lunch with buyers he is at least as tired and have worked as much as the days he is speaking at a conference or writing orders. These people on Kate and Williams parties can be seen as "work-friends" and they have to "sell them selves" in these situations. It takes at least as much brain power to sell yourself as it does to sell a thing. The "sales audience" gets even wider because of the reporting and constant media. Think like this. I want to sell a TV. On the young guy I may use terms describing sound quality, connection possibilities and the several visual aspects. If an elder lady comes in I tell her about the benefits of the new HD system that makes reading text easier and the slimmed down remote control. But imagine you have to sell the product to both of them at the same time. And add in the tech-blogger uncle, the environmentalist sister and the cheap father. You will have to work a lot on your arguments so that when you sell an argument to one person it doesn't hurt your sales progress with another in the group. That is a similar job to what Kate and William do. Except the critic isn't on a product, it's on them self. So, I respectfully disagree!

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    4. I respectfully disagree right back at ya! :-)
      She is going to be treated like a Princess by her countrymen in a foreign country. She's their guest of honor, not the salesman. She has status because of her marriage, not because she was voted in like a politician. She's their future queen, she's not on a job interview. These people that come to these parties use words like "your royal highness" -- which means they think that person is above them. They are there to curry her favor, she does not need to curry theirs.

      This trip is the perfect example of how you entertain the wife of someone considered important - she's accompanying her husband on a work trip - she's not working herself.

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    5. Fantastically explained, Rebecca.

      Camilla

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    6. Maryland Moxie,

      Have you got any idea of how long will she be, for example, sitting doing her hair? It's not like she can spend the afternoon shopping - she's gotta be picture perfect for the gala.

      And about the reasons to go to New York - St Andrews organised there one leg of their 600th anniversary celebrations.
      quite long ago. Indeed there's been talking about a mini tour in the autumn since the Australian tour.
      It's not lije Kate had a whim to visit NYC.

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    7. It might all be smoothed out by the "your highness" and the doting, but the reality is that every move she does and everything she says is analyzed. In that way it is a constant job interview. Yes, the parties probably are fun enough, I'm not saying she has a bad job. BUT it isn't a party in that way. Many like their weddings but they feel exhausted afterwords and it is tiring being the center of attention. It is fun for one night. But not all the time. It is very limiting. And so what if she takes the chance to see New York. Her circumstances as a royal makes it hard for her to see it the touristy way. Why shouldn't she get to do the closest thing?? It might have been planned fast or it might have been the mini tour Camilla talks about. Either way, it is no vacation! Yes, she has time to rest in the afternoon. OFC SHE HAS!! She is freaking pregnant and has suffered through tremendous strain on her body. Even if you hadn't. Most pregnant people take naps and sleep a lot. Just because "not everyone has the chance to take a nap when pregnant" doesn't mean she should have to pressure her body. Good for her for having the opportunities to listen to her body during pregnancy! I am getting a little tired of all the second guessing and minimizing of the pressures they face. Yes, they have many perks. But can you even imagine the psychological effects a life like theirs bring?!

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    8. Sarah from Calif.16 November 2014 at 13:21

      Sitting at a basketball game for 2-3 hours UGh

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    9. Moxie (specifically your comment at 5:05). What you describe *would* be work for me. I like to be honest, although I do try to temper it with diplomacy. And I can't stand brown-nosing, so in my book this would require a great deal of effort on my part. :)))

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    10. Rebecca, you are on a roll, and I have to say that I agree with you.

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    11. Hey Moxie, keep posting so I don't have to! I agree with everything you wrote.

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    12. Interesting discussion here. I consider those events as real work as well. She must look and act flawless, everybody is analyzing what she does and says. She must engage in discussions and show she has done her homework but has to be very careful to not say something stupid. She has to smile even though she might be tired.

      But I don't agree with Rebecca that they have to 'sell' themselves, and nor the BRF or their causes. It's not like they have to discuss with republicans about why they will be king and queen or compete with another potential king and queen, or that they have to convince pouchers in real life to stop pouching wildlife and she doesn't have to convince the gouvernement to give more money to the child centers or anything. Everybody is Oehh and Ahhh when they come in and asking polite questions. In fact, I do something wonder what a patronage really consists of, it's a shame we don't know more of the work they do with their charities expect visiting and attending workshops etc.

      Lastly, i agreed what Maryland Moxie said when she commented that we must not coodle her to much and go out of our minds that despite the fact she is pregnant she is working two full days. OMG two full days! It's making me a bit sarcastic as well, since this is her JOB and she can rest all she wants before and afterwards and we won't see her much the rest of her pregnancy (mustique/early maternity leave etc.)

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    13. I think that it is a bit of a stretch to describe the job as one constant job interview. It really does not matter what she says and does. Even if she is analyzed, there are really no consequences of anything she says. For instance, do we really criticize the Queen for not saying much these days? She shakes hands, people fawn over her, bow their heads, curtsy and her response is often just a tiny nod. It does not seem to me that she is exerting herself at all to impress anyone, garner their liking or respect. Yet all is given by default. She basically has to make sure she remains standing during the one hour she visits.

      Kate may have to do a tad more than that, but not really a whole lot more. People are usually falling over themselves trying to ingratiate themselves to her. Even if she doesn;t say much, even if she says stupid things ( Like about faberge eggs: "Are they still being made", About tea: "Can you smell the tea by ... smelling it".. About studying mathematics in St Andrews "Do you do all those.. calculations") - these comments are all swept under the rug, people ooh and ahh over how beautiful she looks, and what she wears and move on.
      There really are not consequences to their behaviour, or what they say. I don't really think it's "work". And judging by the myriad of rather questionable comments both the Duke ("I wouldn't look there too closely" - to the PM of Singapore about looking into their bedroom -- Really , this is appropriate?) and the Duchess (examples above), I doubt that the carefree duo even spend any time thinking or preparing for these little meetings.

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    14. I'm gonna retreat from this line of discussion here. Not because I don't have arguments. I agree on some thoughts and disagree on some. But I don't think this is the best way to spend my energy today!

      The only thing I will say is that my metaphor with selling didn't mean they literally do that. More like all their actions etc.

      *graciously bows out*

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    15. Well Anon 16:46 thank you 'cause you are underlining my argument that if she says something stupid, it will haunt her. People won't forget! I didn't know your three examples to be honest and are a bit shocked. I think those remarks were out of insecurity/nervousness. I watched the tea fragment and it looks like she feels she has to say something but doens't know what. But you are right that is has no serious consequences. And I was also shocked about William's remark about the bedroom! Totally inappropriate, i hope he meant they make a mess of it! I like that he is 'loose' but this was weird to say to an asian statesman. Makes me also think about what my father said about how William and Harry (and Kate) were laughing on that balcony when they were in Belgium for the WW1 memorial day in August. But I am going off topic here :).

      It's just that it's such a shame that a lot of hard work 'goes away' after one mistake. You can make 10 smart remarks and one stupid and the stupid one will be remembered. I generally feel W&K are great ambassadors for Britain!

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    16. Rebecca - thanks for a great discussion. I'll chip in a few more thoughts. As of today, Kate has spent 42 days engaging the public this year. 278 days she has had her privacy. So based on those facts I challenge the notion of "her life is exhausting having to be on all the time." She spends about 13% of her days as a public figure. She's not on all the time, so she can't be exhausted from it. She spends 87% of her time as a private person.

      Folks have also mentioned the "pressure" of having to look and act flawless all the time. Does anyone worry if Princess Anne looks flawless? What are Kate's "flaws" that she needs to hide? Kate puts that look of hers out into the world because she cultivated it, no one demands it from her. So I'm going to challenge the idea that working so hard for the way you look (workouts, hair appointments, clothes shopping) - is actually "work" to be recognized, respected and honored.

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    17. Moxie, no one can dispute Anne's work ethic, but she doesn't get A's in the people skills department. Can you imagine her as a future monarch given her personality? I cannot. Perhaps in the day of locking people up in the tower, but not today when personal appeal is so important.

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  27. Sorry Charlotte, I think I may have opened a can of worms, with the Duke of Cambridge being a hypocrite, it has opened my eyes on how the UK and the USA see poaching/hunting, shooting an animal for money and shooting an animal for fun is no different, and Duke of Cambridge is still a hypocrite for doing what he is doing, and it is diappointing that the USA fans are taken in.

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    1. I'm not from the US. I'm from Sweden.. Just, FYI. I think morally it can be the same with the individual animals. BUT, as a phenomenon they are different.

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    2. Quite honestly this accusation is ridiculous--they shoot birds such as grouse; pheasant and partridge which are specially raised to be shot for eating---not all by the royal family. Much of it is sold to restaurants and hotels. It is a commercial business just like raising beef; pigs or chickens.The seasons when they can be shot are strictly controlled by law.
      Poaching is entirely different---stealing what is not your own and is a crime.
      Deer have to be culled to keep the numbers reasonable for the food available.
      In no way can you consider it the same as killing animals which are fast becoming extinct.
      If you ever eat meat of any kind or wear leather you have caused an animal to be killed.

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    3. Hunting, killing, and eating an animal legally is similar to going to the supermarket and buying a steak or chicken. This is not just 'hunting for fun'. It is not the same as poaching.

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    4. the difference is that poaching hurts the species and the eco-system. legal hunting does not.
      if you're a vegetarian, i understand your issues, here. but my opinion is that William is ok on this one.

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    5. I could say more: hunting, killing and eating a wild animal is far better than go to the supermarket and buy a chicken to eat. Do you know how horrible is the life of those animals in comparison with the life of wild animals? They both are killed for eating, but the wild beasts are free and happy until they die.

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    6. anon from Leominster16 November 2014 at 08:31

      Overall, I do see the acceptability of shooting -- although sometimes the numbers of birds involved is a bit sick-making and the fact that the birds are raised for the purpose also makes me feel a little uneasy although it does provide some employment. Shooting is part of country life - something I would like to see preserved - and the birds are used for the most part. And some culling of deer is always necessary so my feelings on the subject are quite mixed.

      But we do need to take in account the sad economics of poaching. No one is more opposed to it than I am but while the are huge obscene profits in it made by some, at the ground level many poachers are desperately poor. There are many facets here - how to stop the Asian demand, how to redirect the local economy behind poaching and how to balance grazing versus farming. With such a delicate subject a wealthy man who hunts for sport and has made some questionable remarks (such as wanting to preserve the animals for his children to see - true, no doubt, but not dealing with some of the issues that arrive at the local level - although Diana - and Harry after her, have done fine work in Africa.

      I suppose overall I'm pleased to see William passionate about some cause but wish he would find some serious local causes to balance his interest in conservation - which right now is a bit of a fashionable cause for the rich and pampered. William started with a great interest in the needy and homeless but of late more of his charitable appearances have been parties and sporting events. I'm certain the interest is still there but wish he would spend more time of it and perhaps, rather than his charitable foundation - which always seems a little murky -- (many fine but unpublised charities and an excuse for flashy parties) begin to think of something akin to the Prince's Trust that stands apart from the usual foundations of rich men and has done tremendous good.

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    7. Anon @20.04 I can see what you're trying to say but I agree with Jean from Lancs and Royal Fan.

      I also think there's a huge irony given that the US allows the recreational hunting of endangered species (indeed of species that are on the verge of extinction in their natural habitat mostly in Africa) in what are called 'exotic hunting' ranches. There are over 500 in Texas alone.

      A few years ago I lived in Texas for a year when my husband decided to take a sabbatical year at Texan universities. We had a lot of wonderful hospitality from Texans and thought nothing of it when a colleague invited us to join him in a Texan wildlife experience. We interpreted this through our Australian perspective and assumed he meant looking at wildlife, national parks etc. Big mistake. He drove us to an exotic hunting ranch where we were enthusiastically offered guns and the opportunity to shoot an animal of our choice - we could choose tigers, giraffes, various kinds of antelope, zebras and so on. when we demurred and said we didn't shoot the horror got worse. We were told that wasn't a problem because they would line up the animal and help us shoot it. If we didn't get a clean shot then they would finish off the animal for us. At that point we politely excused ourselves and fled. I still feel sick when I think about it.

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    8. Paola, that is an excellent point.

      blue wren, I would have reacted exactly as you did. What a sad and horrible thought.

      Leo "flashy parties" are very much a reality in royal life. It's about bringing attention to a cause and raising money. Granted, some people may attend primarily to see, and be seen, but it's the bottom line that counts. And I would bet my last dollar that William would rather be at home with Kate and George than to attend said parties.

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    9. Question for those who know about hunting: The birds are raised for eating; I understand that. Are they able to flee as a wild bird would? I am clueless about it, but I have read, and I don't know if it's true, that the birds raised to be shot can't get away from the guns. If that's the case, it puts a different spin on it, and makes it an awful lot like those people who go shoot big game who are confined in pens. There's no sport to it at all, if you can call killing something sport.

      I agree that shooting something that's lived its life free is better than eating animals that have been factory farmed, though.

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    10. The birds can fly---so I suppose it depends on how good the person shooting is.
      Many of the large estates eg Mar Estate adjacent to Balmoral have paying guests to the shoots, but the royal estates only have family and friends. At Sandringham I believe they have a shoot for local farmers too.
      Just ordered the game for our Christmas dinner from a local estate---so you don't have to be very wealthy.

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    11. Blue wren I find your experience to be one that is NOT common for Texas. Most Texans shoot deer, dove, duck and always have it processed for eating. I'm sorry you all were put in that situation. Where in Texas did you live? I went to Texas A&M but am from Dallas and moved back to Dallas after I finished college.

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    12. Blue wren, I have to agree with Jessica that this is NOT something common for Texas. While there are many hunting ranches in Texas, not all have exotic hunting. There are also many ranches who have programs to help needy families and the processed meat is donated to food banks, etc. While it sounds like the situation you were put in was extremely unpleasant, not all hunters in Texas are like that. Hunting is very popular here, but as Jessica said, it's mainly deer, duck, dove, hog, etc. So sorry you had that experience.

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    13. Kate and Jessica we loved Texas and spent a lot of our weekends travelling all over the State and met wonderful people. My husband spent most of the year at UT so we lived in Austin - what a cool city with a great music and art vibe. For the last 3 months he worked on a project with colleagues at Texas A&M so we moved to College Station. We knew that hunting was big in Texas because we'd seen the taxidermist shops in the small towns we visited and the shops selling the gear. But it wasn't part of our lives and it wasn't endangered animals so the exotic hunting experience came as a total shock. But it was the only bad experience we had in an awesome year in Texas.

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    14. To say US fans are "taken in" because some people make a distinction between legal hunting and illegal poaching endangered species is a (condescending) overgenerlization

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    15. Blue Wren, there are stupid people everywhere. I am sorry you had to encounter some of them on your trip tomTexas.

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    16. College Station will always have a special place in my heart! I'm glad to read you experienced Austin, it's probably the best city in Texas for the most diverse experiences! Kate where are you in Texas? I'm always curious when I see you comment!

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    17. Jessica, I'm in The Woodlands! Glad to have another Aggie on here.....WHOOP!!!!

      Blue wren, Austin is a blast and as Jessica said, offers the most diverse experiences. It's such a cool city! We would love to have y'all back to Texas for a visit anytime! :)

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  28. "Taken in"...or able to make the distinction? (And I have not hunted nor would I ever want to.)

    Unless you are not involved in the killing of animals in any way (food, clothing, handbags/luggage, leather sofas, car interiors, etc., etc.) I'm not sure how you can accuse William of hypocrisy.

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  29. I will steer clear of the animal hunting comments and say "Go Cavs". I'd absolutely love to be at that game and I bet the tickets just got REALLY expensive!

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  30. I'm a huge fan of the Duchess and the site, but have never written in before; I just had to this time because I was so thrilled to hear that Kate and William will be in NYC! I live on the Upper East Side, about 6 blocks from the Met, and am thinking about going over to see if I can catch a glimpse of them when they arrive for the St. Andrews benefit, though it will be very cold! The Met is one of my absolute favorite places in the city, and is particularly close to my heart because it's where my husband proposed 3 years ago. :) I thought other readers might be interested to know some tidbits about the museum and what Kate and William's experience is likely to be like there. Although of course I can't say for sure, the room most commonly used for large galas at the Met is the Temple of Dendur room, which is a large, truly spectacular permanent exhibit of a whole Egyptian temple (some pictures of what this room looks like during the day can be seen at the museum's website here: http://www.metmuseum.org/collection/the-collection-online/search/547802?=&imgNo=7&tabName=gallery-label). The temple is housed in the largest room in the Met's north wing and the whole north wall is one large, floor-to-ceiling window overlooking Central Park (the scene in When Harry Met Sally, where Billy Crystal and Meg Ryan are doing the funny voices with each other, was filmed in this room). For nighttime parties, the Met can put together all sorts of light displays and project images/video on the walls; combined with more traditional decor like floral arrangements (even real palm trees), this transforms what is already a jaw-dropping space into a truly one-of-a-kind experience (photos from the Met of previous benefits here: http://www.metmuseum.org/give-and-join/benefit-parties). I hope that Kate and William enjoy their time there, and am very glad it made their busy schedule on their first visit to the city!

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    1. Sarah from Calif.16 November 2014 at 13:15

      HRH fan, thank you for sharing. I do hope you get to see them :)

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  31. rose from Brooklyn16 November 2014 at 01:12

    Yay.yay.yay. I live in brooklyn ny. Half hr from nyc.

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  32. Hmmm... if Kate didn't plan on going to NY we'd have comments about her "being able to shop". And now that she will be going, it's not grueling enough. Got it.

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    1. royalfan, why must everything Kate do publicly be classified as "work". Is it "work" to attend a variety performance or a movie premiere? Is sailing yachts in New Zealand "work"? Is having lunch with your countrymen in a foreign country "work"? Is watching a basketball game "work"? Is going to a Gala for your alma mater "work". Can anyone else claim those activities as "work"?

      Kate's not going to New York to "work". She's accompanying her husband on a business trip - there isn't anything wrong with that - except when it is presented as a "job" or "work". May she have a good time at her various parties and sporting event, and I have no doubt she'll be very kind to those American children she'll visit for an hour each day.

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    2. why would there be commens about her shopping if she didnt go to NY?

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    3. Moxie, it's "work" in the Royal Dictionary. How many mere mortals tweet like they pour a cup of coffee, yet the Queen sends one and it's an engagement in her diary.

      Here's another example of it. And I am not picking on C&C this time (really...lol). It's just to highlight that it is what it is. Focusing on the details of any particular engagement can eclipse the greater purpose of the visit.

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1040178/Ones-beer-Charles-Camilla-drop-pub-eco-friendly-brew.html

      And while this American has no interest in sitting through a basketball game, at *this* level it's about PR and diplomacy.

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    4. I propose from now on that HRH will punch the clock when she starts working, so we will be able to see how much she works. Of course, she will punch the clock before making love with her hubby (giving a heir or a spare to a Nation is rather an important job, isn't it?).
      I don't want to be sarcastic: what I mean is that her life is a job itself, because she's never allowed to put aside her role.
      To raise a baby knowing that he will not be free to choose his life because his destiny is to be a king must not be a great thing for a mother. So please Kate, punch the clock each time you smile sweetly to your baby: he isn't yours, he belongs to British people. Do you know, it's called a golden cage: golden, yes, but a cage. A cage made of eyes, millions of couples of eyes looking at you day and night. Awful experience. Wanting a great bravery.

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    5. Stephanie, because that's all we'd see her doing? If we saw her at all?

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    6. The events taking place in NYC and other events reported on are official royal engagements. These are typical within the range of work that all the royals carry out. This doesnt just apply to BRF but to all.

      They attend State occasions, church services, military events. They visit hospitals and schools. As Patrons, they hold meetings, attend conferences, receive officers, they hold or attend receptions, dinners etc in order to raise the profile or funds for their charities.

      They do this as representatives of the Queen (Head of State) or sometimes the Government (ie the GREAT Campaign event)

      Some posters may think hat this is fun - it isn't, its work. Members of Royal Families are expected to talk and comfort bereaved families, look and behave positively even if they have little interest in events (I'm imagining my husband at the ballet!), the women members must meet everyone's sartorial expectations and put up with minute scrutiny by the media.

      If it's in the Court Circular, its official and its work. And for William and Catherine, as with C&C; F&M etc, it is inevitably a 24/7 the rest of their lives job.

      IT isnt fun and I wouldnt want it for the world

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    7. Haha, Laughing at the picture of her punching the clock before making love :P

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    8. Paola, I love it! But will she punch the clock before or after the proverbial cigarette? Inquiring minds want to know. ;))) And.....is Kate tracking all of the time devoted to tracking her time..... :)

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    9. Well said Paola & Anon at 17:16.
      Hi Maryland Moxie - interesting theoretical debate but all the things you describe are what the RF do including the Queen when she's on a tour. While these activities might not be meaningful to you they clearly are to other people. What was totally unexpected in your comment was the implied sexism. You devalued what the Duchess does and reduced her to an appendage of her husband. The schedule for this trip is designed to give her a clear role and activities as well as joint ones with Prince William while respecting the constraints of her pregnancy. One of the really refreshing things about the Cambridges is that they see themselves as a team and act accordingly. there's no doubt her star power is equal to his.





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    10. The sad reality is she IS an appendage of William's. A popular one, to be sure, but an appendage she is.
      Would she be where she is without him? If the answer to that is "no", there's your answer. She did not rise to where she is on her own. She got there because she was William's girlfriend, fiancée and now wife.

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    11. Several points to include --- Duke of Windsor - chose a different life - George can get out if he wishes.
      William is giving speeches on an issue at a conference in DC, he is President of the charity that got the NBA involved in the topic, he is Patron of the Fund for St. Andrews. Kate is going as his wife. When Kate goes to DC to give speeches, and recruits American Sport, and adds her time to the St. Andrews Fund - and William accompanies her, I'm sure the British consulate will find things for him to do should he wish to come on the trip. How does Kate visiting American children in NY help the people of the UK? How does it help the American children? I have no idea - but it looks good in the court circular. Which, by the way, is a press release by Buckingham Palace - so it's not exactly an independent review of the activities of the royal family. I'm sure these lunches will be great fun and very meaningful to all involved. But I make the distinction between socializing and work. What "work" is being accomplished? Kate is making a social call to her countrymen in a foreign land - because she is there, not because she is bringing anything to the table to discuss. Phillip and Camilla are accommodated the same way when they accompany their spouses.

      Further, I completely disagree with the concept - "her life is a job itself". In 2014, she's spent 42 days engaging the public, the rest she's been a private person doing as she pleases. Nothing wrong with that -- but if you spent 87% of your time doing what you want - you're not doing a "job". 87% of the time, she is not seen by the public, there are not millions of eyes on her at all times.

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    12. Moxie, speaking of the Duke of Windsor, did you happen to catch the special on PBS last night about Wallis Simpson's letters to her soon-to-be ex husband? As Edward was thinking about abdicating she was writing to Ernest talking about how she missed their life and was actually going to leave Edward except he aced her plans by announcing his plans to abdicate on the day she was going to run. So she was forced to stay and married him. And wrote letters to Ernest during this whole time, including after she was married.

      I had always thought the the love story of theirs wasn't all bluebirds and happiness as reported, but I had no idea how one sided it was.

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    13. Mmmm bluhare are you winding us up? :) ….because I’m not buying your appendage argument even for a second. No one should be disparaged by being defined only in terms of their spouse. (By the way there’s a whole lot of academic literature on this appendage issue and the role of First Ladies in the US and how public perceptions have changed over time.)

      What you say about Catherine could be said of every person who marries a royal – Prince Phillip, Maxima, Letizia, Rania, Princess Mary of Denmark, Sophie of Wessex etc. Yet these are all impressive individuals in their own right and over time have carved out a meaningful contribution in their royal roles. The only difference between them and the Duchess is that they are older and have much more experience as royals. The Duchess is at the beginning of her royal life and she’s got plenty of time to develop her role and contribution. Most importantly she and William have ensured the succession. If she were carrying out a 1000 appointments a year and there was no heir in sight then the media would be in a frenzy and there’d be consternation growing across the Commonwealth.

      Sophie of Wessex is a cautionary tale about rushing to judgement too early about new royals. Her first few years as a royal were turbulent and came to a head in one of the biggest scandals to hit the royal family (the Arab sheikh sting by the DM). She also did very few royal duties in this period preferring to focus on her PR business. There were plenty of people writing her off but 10+ years on they’ve been proved very wrong.


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    14. Not winding anyone up blue wren. And everyone who marries a royal is an appendage to that royal. I stand by that too. I'm not picking on Kate. Her title is derived from her husband. Her royal privileges are derived from her husband. She has done nothing on her own to get where she is other than to say yes when he proposed to her.

      You also don't know how I came to my opinions on Kate and it is not a rush to judgment. The rush to judgment came when she got married and I thought she was the best things on two legs. Then I read more, talked to more people, and came to where I am today. Which isn't negative, but a lot more "meh". I'm very disappointed in how little she's done on her own. Note those last three words. I'd be much more in the Kate Kamp if she was more her own person. But I don't see that. I see someone following what William wants to do.

      PS The Duke of Edinburgh has been vocal about how he feels about being a royal appendage.

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    15. bluhare - missed it, will keep an eye out for it - I also want to see the one with Charles called "The Royal Paintbox" (I think?) where he discusses the artistic talent of the royal family. I'm not surprised Wallis wanted out - George V managed to damage his children pretty good - George VI speech impediment was a direct result from his father. (The Queen Mother didn't accept his proposal until the 3rd time he asked), I can't imagine Edward, or David as they liked to call him, was well developed either. Honestly, can you imagine someone giving up the throne for a person, and then that person turned around and left them? I'm impressed those letters have seen the light of day and were shared in the Queen's lifetime.

      On another note, I'm not sure what Princess William's views are on the whole royal appendage issue and being defined in terms of her spouse. Maybe Princess Michael has given speeches on the topic?

      Meanwhile - I've been studying the English culture through anthropologist Kate Fox's book "Watching the English" and she had a lovely piece on something called "The Shipping Report". I pulled it up to listen to it and could totally appreciated why millions of people tune in. This book has also taught me why most, if not all, UK posters have at one time called me "rude". I certainly don't agree with them, but I now understand why they have said it. :-) It's a good read, I highly recommend it for both the UK and foreign audiences.

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    16. Moxie, the Royal Paintbox was lovely. It was amazing how much talent is in the royal family. The person who surprised me the most was George III. Amazing detailed structural drawings. Just beautiful.

      Check PBS on Sunday nights at 7:00pm (at least here on the west coast, it's 7pm). They've had some great specials recently. The paintbox one, Edward VIII and his Nazi leanings, and then Wallis this past Sunday. Really interesting.

      As far as the appendage issue goes, I'm sure the Princess William would disagree with me vociferously but until she does something other than that, I stand by my opinion. Princess Michael, well, there's a person, but she's hustled to make some money, you've got to give her that.

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    17. BTW, if you want to study British culture Moxie, you should let me take you to The Swan (I think it was the Swan!) in my dad's hometown, known in his day as The Blood Tub due to the Friday night melees. :)

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    18. Moxie, Thanks for the tip about Kate Fox's work. A quick google led me to this very informative Daily Mail piece by her. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2608173/So-CLASS-YOU-A-wickedly-funny-perceptive-new-book-answer-hinges-favourite-marmalade-buy-M-S.html

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  33. or maybe she will stay to her parents home enjoying converastion with her sister just catching up or playing with prince george

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  34. I think Paola says it best: Kate is always in a golden cage, always on the clock in this royal life. "Making new friends?" In a political sense, I suppose that's possible, but not a life most of us would enjoy. Poor Kate. If she smiles too much at a Remembrance appearance, she dishonors the dead. If she seems quiet and introspective, she's either feeling ill or her marriage is in trouble. If she goes to New York with William, it's just for her own amusement, if she stays home, she's lazy and her marriage is in trouble. This seems like a typical royal itinerary. I live in the Washington DC area and the only royal I've ever spotted was Diana, post-separation, shopping at a Gap store on a private visit here to her Brazilian friend. Diana was lucky not to have been subject to the even more intrusive social media of today, or her halo would be far more tarnished. She spent plenty of taxpayer money shopping and amusing herself.

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    1. A gilded cage it might be, but it is one she chose of her own free will.

      And I will posit that the noise would die down considerably if she got out and shook a few hands twice a week. That's two two-hour appointments, or four hours per week plus prep time. Not a lot to ask of anyone.

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    2. You are right, Bluhare, she chose of her own will. But she is not free to quit the job of her own will: that''s the difference. The little thing is that she is in love with his hubby, and hubby and job are a whole. So must we argue that she is in love with the job? Maybe, and if so how can we say she is lazy, given that she is in love with the job? But if she isn't, and she married just because she is in love with the hubby but not with the job, don't you think that it's a great sacrifice to ask her to devote herself to a unwanted job? All her life, 24/24 and 365/365? And provided that hubby is just second in line (it means being a step back in public appearances, I believe)? Please let her stay with her baby and go sometimes to shops without blaming her so much. There will be time for a full time work and for shaking billions of hands. She is pregnant, and I remember I read that HM when pregnant announced she would have no engagements for a while. Am I wrong?

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    3. That's exactly why William says he took so long so she knew what she was getting into. . She wanted the job, as she knew good and well that's what comes with William. And, for what it's worth, I don't blame her. I have an opinion about her.

      I don't think two appointments a week is a lot to ask -- it certainly isn't shaking billions of hands, and it certainly doesn't endanger her or her unborn baby. I don't know if you're wrong, but I do know I disagree with you.

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    4. Greybird, being the guest of honor at lunches and parties is not for everyone. This hardship Kate bears for the people of her country is only because of her love for William. She'll wear those Alexander McQueens and have her hair blown out, and shake hands with those celebrities, not because it's fun and stimulating, but for William. She'll shop for and decorate those houses, not because it's fun, but because of her devotion to her man and to keep him comfortable. She'll give up a career and work, not because she doesn't have ideas and passion and a desire to be involved, but because William needs her to hire the nannies and cooks to care for the children while he's off training to rescue people in distress and so she can be free to go hunting and traveling and taking long walks in the woods in vast estates to discuss the great problems of the world which they will solve through their horrid, but necessary, Gala schedule and foundation meetings.

      As for always being on the clock? Try 42 days out of 320. We don't see 87% of her life. I'm guessing she spends it scrapbooking.

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    5. Very well said both Greybird and Paola Magi. Paola Magi, if I have learned anything over the years of reading this post is that there are several posters that will take every opportunity to put down W & K. They are not fans, will never try to understand what their lives are like - so No you are not wrong, you just will never be able to convince these posters that you have a valid position.

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    6. Thank you Eve, I want to add another point: I like to discuss with Bluhare, because she is always so poised, never a shadow of insulting or of aggressive mood. So, I can say with Anonymous 10:16, thank you, Charlotte, for the lively discussion. It's not important to change Bluhare's mind (and others laziness-partners) but to express our different points of view. I'm sure that a day will come when it will be clear that Kate is a hard worker! (Kate if you are reading please remember to not contradict me) :)

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    7. Paola, thank you for that. I also like to talk to people with whom I disagree. And I appreciate the fact you notice I take great care not to do what Eva B just did, and make assumptions about posters. Thank you very much for that. And for what it's worth, Moxie doesn't either. :)

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    8. Jennifer from Wisconsin17 November 2014 at 19:19

      Lol Moxie. Point taken but thanks for the levity. :) Her scrapbooks would be perfect. School work load is crazy this week so I took a break and got just the laugh I needed.
      A very grateful Jennifer

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    9. Yes, there are many nice people in this blog, and they make it so enjoyable. Royalfan, for instance, Moxie and others.
      Well, I started reading Lady Charlotte because I wanted to improve my English, now I am a fan of Kate and a poster of the blog… sometime life is surprising. Incidentally, I hope my English is not so bad.

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    10. Thank you, Paola. And please do not worry about your English; you write very well. :)

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    11. Paola, you and the other non-native speakers who post here humble me actually. Your command of English is much better than my command of any foreign language, and better than some native English speakers!

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    12. bluhare, great observation! I agree with you - if Kate A) got involved with some causes that affect a wide range of people, such as HG awareness or eating/body image disorders or even more involved with the causes the Palace chose for her, I think a lot of the criticism would die down. I really don' t think four hours a week or even eight hours a week would be too taxing.
      Kate is not the first woman or the first royal woman to have babies. Other women have managed far more strenuous jobs than a couple of royal engagements a week.
      I think Kate (and William) are going to be in for a huge shock whenever the crown changes hands and William moves into the role of heir apparent. I wonder, given their seeming lack of disinterest in royal duties (though not the perks of the job!) how they will handle it?

      Paola, your command of English is superb, better than many native English-speakers I know!

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    13. Thank you Elizabeth, I am very fond of looking through dictionaries :)

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    14. I disagree, Catherine is free to quit the job. She wouldn't be the first. As well, George can always choose to not become king. I'm not saying her life is always easy, but there are billions of people on this planet that have it much, much harder.

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  35. Yeah! I live in NYC and definitely plan on going to the Met Museum early to get a good spot to see them when they arrive. I thought about trying to get tickets to the basketball game, but feel it's going to be crazy and going to Bklyn on a work night will be tough!

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  36. Hooray for free speech. Thank you Charlotte for allowing frank discussions on your blog. We will not always like or agree with the opinions of others but at least we are allowed free expression within reason. This is good and that is why I come back to this blog again and again. Love lively discussions and debate: Thanks all.

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  37. This is SO exciting for an American royal watcher such as myself! How I wished I lived in NYC. I would seriously consider making the trip from Ohio, but I am already going out of town later that week on my first vacation in almost two years. To those readers who live in the city, you should definitely try to get a ticket to the basketball game! I just checked, and there are plenty of tickets available starting around $85. I have a feeling they will be court side, as most celebrities are when they go to NBA games. Plus, I'm sure they want to be visible at the game as it is to promote the new collaboration of charities. If anyone does decide to go, please share your pictures with us!

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  38. I live in Manhattan - across the park from the Met on the UWS. I hope for W&K's sake they do not stay at the Waldorf but someone nice like the Carlyle. As a Kate enthusiast I would be tempted to walk over to the Met to see if I can watch them go up/down the steps but the police/federal presence is likely to be so huge that I'll lose patience lol. Mostly I hope W&K do not become two more VIP/any tourists who jam up the city and make it nearly unnavigable/intolerable for those of us who live here and have to walk the streets, ride the trains and listen to the security helicopters overhead. The city can be so lovely at the holidays (except Times Square which is always hideous and avoided religiously by us locals haha) and maybe they'll get a chance to push through the hordes at Rockefeller Center/Macy's/southern end of the park. Wonder how tight security will be at Barklay Center that night for the game??

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  39. hi everyone prince william message for united for wildlife in partners with angry bird to safe the rhinos here the message
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTTXPd8iLsQ

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  40. Thank you Charlotte for some lively discussions.

    The Duchess of Cambridge was with William for 10 years, she was in her 30's when she married and not a teenager, so she pretty much knew what to expect from her role public and private; should she be doing more; yes is the answer, this is meant to be her "job" the Royal Family is being paid by the British Tax payer; and the Duchess of Cambridge is part of that family ; would most of you want to be in her shoes (secretly; even for a day) "yes" doing two hrs work every week,smiling, shaking hands, the brief is given to her; all you do is read it; driven everywhere and back, having the best medical care when you are not well and everything else that comes to being married to a Prince; do I feel sorry for her "no" I don't. If she goes shopping she does have privacy, no one cares really in the UK. don't forget she also security and most "private" photographs are not published by the UK press.

    She waited a long time for this role as did her family, lets not forget that she did not have a full time job once she finished university and working for your family and a friend of Prince Charles does not count... so she should do more; other than visit NY (she has been quoted saying "she has always wanted to visit") and why not, the British Tax Payer will pay and as someone mentioned in a previous comment she would not be where is she is if she were not married to Prince William.

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    1. Hey anonymous....

      You're on the wrong button...... I think u need the one of the numerous mean girl blogs. U know the " I love Diana but hate royalty blogs"

      Next....!!!!

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    2. Hey Sam from London, I am not mean, horrible or hate royalty blogs (otherwise I would not be enjoying Charlotte's blog) and I actually like her, I am just not naive and taken in with everything that we are told, there's nothing wrong with keeping an open mind and having a opinion that may differ to other opinions

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    3. Give it a rest.

      You'll be calling for a 'peoples republic' next

      very un-British

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    4. Who are you to tell someone what she can say? I swear, the rudest people on this blog are fans.

      To everyone else: I think most people who post here are lovely. But you've got to admit that the ugliest posts here (which I define as attacking a poster, rather than the content of the person's post) have been posted by fans, not the non-fan contingent. I'll even go as far as to say most of the non fan group are polite to a fault, probably because they realize that because their opinions may not be the most welcome they are careful how they phrase things. I know there's a glaring exception to what I just said on here somewhere, but as a general rule those are my observations. Thanks for validating them, Sam.

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    5. I kind of agree bluhare. (I see myself as a fan though. A realistic optimist) Although there have been a share of rude non-fans (mostly anons) some fans can get really condecending and defenisve which comes out as attacking. I understand that having your views questioned is scary and not very comfortable. But read everything, dismiss it or take it to heart, but please listen and answer in a civilized manner. You'd be surprised how much you can learn and how interesting your "opponent" can be. I'm not saying that people should stop being fans. Not at all, I myself get giddy when a new post about her is up. But none of us is here to get world peace. Let's not take ourselves and each other too serious. I love how bluhare and royalfan manages their (pretty huge) differences and disagreements. With wit, strong arguments and a surprisingly big amount of respect.

      Ciao!

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    6. Not to nitpick, but Catherine was in her 20's when she married, not her 30's. As for the rest of your comments, I agree with a lot of what you said.

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    7. Sam, I fear you are losing credibility with every post by using this blog to play games.

      If you don't give a fig about the posters here, fine, but Charlotte deserves better.

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    8. P.S. bluhare, I wouldn't waste another keystroke... :)

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    9. Heh, all this time I thought bluhare was a rabbit!

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  41. I don't think anyone here has mentioned that William and Kate will be arriving in New York on a very solemn and important date in US history--the anniversary (73rd, I think) of the bombing of Pearl Harbor, when 2,403 were killed (my father's brother among them), 1,178 were injured, and the whole US fleet was virtually destroyed . Although Pearl Harbor Day is not designated as an official federal holiday, it marks the entry of the United States into World War II in active alliance with Great Britain. Therefore, the date has indirect significance for the UK, too. Most US flags are lowered to half staff as the US pays homage to the thousands killed and injured on this date, which President Franklin Roosevelt declared "will live in infamy." Ironically, December 7, 1941, also fell on a Sunday.

    Surely Kate and William will join us in paying tribute as they arrive on our shores.


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    1. Amy, Detroit Michigan17 November 2014 at 21:57

      Yes, thank you for bringing that up, Lynne. It is, indeed, an important day and I do hope they get the chance to join in a tribute in some way.

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    2. Thank you for mentioning that, Lynn.

      There is more to this trip than Kate looking forward to seeing NY. As a member of the royal family, and with many more "business miles" ahead of, there isn't a place on this earth she wouldn't look forward to seeing.

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  42. So glad William and Kate are coming to NYC! They will be so well received here, and I can imagine that Anna Wintour, DVF, Michael Kors, Tory Burch (and more!) will be at the Met to meet them! I live about 10 minutes away from the Barclays Center here in Brooklyn but you could not pay me to go to that game, what a nutty security mess that's going to be. However, I feel quite certain that they are going to be warmly received by the crowds at that game! And I have to say, I love that they are coming to Brooklyn and not just staying in Manhattan the whole time! Right on!

    I do hope Kate gets a chance to shop at Bergdorf Goodman and to see the gorgeous holiday windows they do every year! The city is so gorgeous at Christmastime so she and William will have quite the visual treat while they are here.

    Can't wait to read your posts on the visit! XO, Jill

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    1. This guest list could end up being very interesting - The Clintons could conceivably be there as Hilary was given an Honorary Degree from St. Andrews a few years ago. There is a strong American connection to the University - which is why there is such a campaign/gala being thrown in the first place.

      I know this might shock people, but I think it would be really fun if Kate did just come here to go shopping and the press followed her around! :-) I've realized that the UK royals can't actually been seen enjoying American cities and cultures without some kind of UK connection or it might seem disrespectful to the UK. It might not look so good that she's come to NY to do shopping, when she lives in London. I know the other European royals don't have a problem with it -- perhaps Kate needs to do this introduction to make connections so she can come back more frequently.

      Just a note - sporting venues in the US are VERY secure - whether there is royalty or not - it is always considered a possible target which is why all bags are checked before entering. I don't think there will be too much inconvenience where the fans are concerned. Fans come to watch multi-millionaires play basketball - the players themselves need protection from fans and anti-fans.

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  43. As I read through the comments, coincidentally, the deer meat my other half had processed from his opening day hunt arrived on my door step. Aside from the jerky, I am not much of a fan so it is being shared with three families. Perhaps this is my Midwest and California upbringing coming out of me. After I put the meat away, I realized that there are many comments in this post that strike me personally.

    One is the conversation about hunting. I spend most vacations on a beautiful ranch in Central Texas and always look forward to my next visit. Sadly enough, it is two ranches away from an exotic animal ranch that is full of beautiful animals whose fate I hadn't considered until today (perhaps it is the same ranch mentioned above and the ONLY one in the state!). Aside from that, all of the Texans I know who hunt are passionate about using what they catch, professionally processing the animal so all parts can be used. This is a vast difference to hunting animals for their tusks, without intention of even carrying the dead or maimed animal away. William's efforts do not seem hypocritical to me in the least. As a former vegetarian, I don't feel badly about the hunting that goes on in my family, either.

    A second is the illusion made that only Midwesterners have manners. As a former Midwesterner myself, I'm not sure what experiences lead to that comment, but I would hope you keep an open mind the next time you travel and you will likely find that there are people all over (even here in Southern California) who are as nice as can be, regardless of geography. Mostly, I would hate for anyone who hasn't visited this country to think we, as a whole, don't know how to behave.

    Finally, I believe Moxie was asking why the duties Catherine undertakes should be considered as work. I know this has been talked to death, but many of the examples you gave of what is not work, I have actually done FOR work. I have attended concerts, fancy dinners, ordinary lunches, even visited Ground Zero shortly after the day, all while working. I have planned parties and elaborate trips for my company. I have attended funerals of coworkers parents, Mass on special days (even though I am not Catholic) in support of a coworker. I work from home and might be perceived as one who is on the golf course daily (although I've never golfed) because my coworkers don't see me at a desk even though I feel chained to it constantly. I work in a family business that never stops (even at Chirstmas dinner, much to my mother's chagrin) and yet I have plenty of time off. In prior jobs, I always worked full-time, but the number of hours was less with small children than before or after those first years.

    I am only saying this to suggest that we don't know what goes in to her daily life and that the tasks some may think of as fun can also be exhausting, at least they are for me. When I vacation, I am relaxed. When I travel to the Hotel del Coronado while I am working, no, that's not relaxing. Beautiful, fun and amazing but exhausting.

    And Moxie, please don't be mad at me for using your comment as my touchstone. I have said it before because it is true, I love reading your comments, probably because your perspective and mine are not aligned! I wish she was out more, too, but I still believe those many years are to come. And no, two days a week doesn't sound like a lot but who is to say that she isn't completely buried in responsibilities (intentional ridiculousness there!)? I know she has help but that doesn't remotely solve everything, this I know very well!

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  44. Yankee from CA,
    It is never a problem to reference something I said and agree, disagree, compare, contrast and/or bring up a tangent point. The only thing that makes me angry are skinny jeans and wedges for royal appearances. I'm aware that this is irrational - but there it is all the same! :-)

    I still think there is a difference in networking to provide for your family and what Kate does - which is accept invitations and socializes. She's not working like her mother did to build a business and have income to send her kids to private schools, live in a nice house in the countryside, and travel abroad. And I actually think that might be a better way to put Kate's lifestyle in perspective. Carol may have done exactly as you for the family business, but Kate's relationship to the world and the events she attends is very different, imho.

    People often like to compare Kate to Diana - but I think her lifestyle more accurately reflects an earlier time and she lives very much like - Elizabeth - the Queen Mother, and Queen Mary. Except maybe she's not making off with all the goods like Queen Mary was famous for doing.

    As a nosy bird, that is very much the part of Kate's life I would like to know about - they attend all these weddings of "friends" so they must be getting together at each others houses to entertain each other on their various estates. We never hear of any of it so they have found a discreet social circle to carry on with.

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    1. Moxie, you must have read my thoughts. I agree that it seems like Kate has picked the late Queen Mother to model herself after.
      The cold, hard truth is that people expect more from the royal family, including - especially - the female royals than they ever did when Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon was queen.
      People want to see the royals being active and involved, ie Diana and not made into some mute, smiling, royal mannequin, which is what Kate is in real danger of becoming.
      Nobody argues that she should put a priority on motherhood but I think the idea is that millions of women, with far less help and far less money than Kate has, balance raising children with full-time jobs and keeping a home and having a happy marriage.
      And Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon was no saint either, most credible accounts paint her as ruthless, mean, vindictive and a spendthrift who had absolutely no qualms about spending millions of taxpayer pounds to maintain an off-the-chart luxurious royal lifestyle. She shunted the care of her kids off to nannies and staff and really didn't do much in the way of work. She was known to be racist and homophobic and class-obsessed.
      As royal role models go, Kate would do better to try to emulate her late royal mother-in-law, without the paranoid/bulimic/stalker bits, of course.

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    2. PS You also get all wonky when high heels are worn for sporting events.

      Helpfully yours,
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    3. Jennifer from Wisconsin18 November 2014 at 17:29

      Bluhare,
      This is why I love this blog! Lol.
      Moxie,
      If I ever get invited to see Kate's closet- I promise to toss them in the fire. I agree with everything you have been writing.

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    4. Moxie, I agree Kate isn't networking to provide for her family...and I am quite glad. Her job is more that of a diplomat, (or his wife) representing a country. (She is in fact representing it at the highest level) There will be a lot of receptions, a lot of shaking hands, a lot of cheering the national team even if you don't understand anything about hockey or whatever it happens to be good at. All part of the job. Sometimes it is fun others boring or exhausting but you don't do it just to socialize or make friends. What I like about Kate is that she still seems thrilled by it all, very refreshing to see and perhaps that's what's giving the impression her job is no job at all, only fun.
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    5. bluhare, don't get my blood pressure up. This basketball game event has got me worried. Thank you, Jennifer, for your kind offer of arson - it means a lot.

      Elizabeth - completely agree about the Queen Mother comparison - she had no concept of money whatsoever and her daughter Elizabeth had to pay her debtors. Given Kate's upbringing, you wonder if she might not be similar -- she's never had to be responsible for her own care by working for what she has. Signs of this are when you re-do an apartment in a palace, that you just had done. I find it funny when people praise Kate for wearing outfits more then once in public on her charitable events. But you'll notice she is in McQueen at every official royal appearance where the Queen is in attendance too - so it's not like she hasn't been shopping. So spendthrift, yes. And your description of Diana was spot on - we all need to be mindful on those bits of ourselves don't we? :-) too funny.

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    6. Please, not the jeans & wedges!

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    7. Yes, Diana was paranoid. Camilla was a figment of her imagination. :)

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    8. You should read the Queen Mother's biography. Yes, she was a mess financially, she could be vindictive, and she was an Edwardian lady who maintained an elegant lifestyle to the end. But I finished reading her official biography with the feeling that Princess Anne learned her work ethic from her grandmother. The QM actually worked past her hundredth birthday, and was very active. The story of her life, by the way, is very much the story of the 20th century, and it is quite interesting.

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    9. Basketball has you worried?? How strange. . .

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    10. Anon 01:09, interesting that you believe Anne learned her work ethic from the QM. I hope this doesn't sound disrespectful, but I always thought she was *equally* good at putting her feet up and enjoying downtime....something I would *not* say about the Queen (the downtime part, that is).

      I do agree about the vindictive part. She blamed E&W for her husband's premature death, but I believe that her rather inflexible attitude towards them put a tremendous amount of pressure on the king.

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    11. Let's hope Kate doesn't model herself on QM in all ways . . . she'd be drinking gin at 10:00am!

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    12. Anon 1:11 - it's a joke - worried she is going to wear skinny jeans and wedges.

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  45. Those four American outfits for the New Zealand and Australia tour are so nice. I especially like the unusual Tori Burch and the beautifully fitted Michael Kors (he did a coat dress so much better than McQueen does!). I like the Lela Rose, too, though it should have been fitted better. By the way, there is an interesting article about her in the current American Vogue. She's a rather flamboyant lady. I'm not crazy about Diane von Furstenurg's wrap dresses, which always seem like house dresses to me, but the blue and white one isn't bad. It's nice that Kate has worn these designers, and I hope she will find other garments of theirs to her liking, and perhaps wear one or two of them in New York. After her experience of seeing her beautiful gown on someone else the other evening, I suspect she will start asking for custom designed outfits from her better designers.

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  46. Frankly, as an American, I'm rather "meh" about Will and Kate coming to NYC and Washington DC.
    In my humble opinion, FINALLY, someone at the royal press office has clued in to the fact that even the veteran royal reporters and observers are really starting to question what it is, exactly, that Will and Kate are doing and they've put together an agenda of photo ops for the couple.
    There doesn't seem to be a lot of substance to this trip actually, not in the way that their first trip to North America was nor even the tours to Asia and Australia. It seems kind of a hodgepodge of events hastily assembled.
    I also think that Will and Kate have got orders from higher up and an ultimatum that if they don't put their hand to at least a few public appearances before Christmas, the annual beach vacay and/or another "babymoon" is a no-go.
    I apologize if I sound rather disenchanted with the couple. They are proving to be among the laziest among the working royals and I think those of us who expected great things, given their presumed interests and busy schedule in the lead-up to the wedding and shortly thereafter, are a little dismayed.
    I think Charles and Camilla have some great real-life causes and Harry's support and involvement in veterans' causes and charities as well as his work on behalf of AIDS-impacted children is incredible.
    William continues to focus on African wildlife conservation. With hunger, famine, civil war, AIDS and Ebola ravaging the human population throughout Africa, he'd better serve Africans to focus on a few people-related issues. He seems rather out-of-touch with the real world and real people, in a way that his mother never was and never would have wanted him to be.

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    1. I completely agree with you! I'm a long-time supporter and "fan" of the RF and William in particular, being close in age to him, but I have been so disappointed by he and Kate.

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    2. Oh but Charles is just jealous of their star power like he was with his wife in the 80s. He's still super insecure in his older age and isn't letting them work as much as they really want to. Will and Kate's wings are being clipped by the RF, it totally isn't their fault their numbers of engagements fall shorter every year than other less senior royals and members of the RF who are private citizens.

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  47. Go Brooklyn Nets!!

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  48. I continue to read comments where W&K are accused of being disinterested, lazy, unwilling, out of touch, how Kate isn't the first woman to deal with pregnancy or raise a family, etc., etc. And the comments include statements about what people "want"...what they "expect" of this royal couple. Okay...

    Now, if W&K are going against the Queen's and Charles' wishes...if they are stomping their feet (William in tired sneakers, Kate in wedges) and saying "NO, we don't want to!"...I would be in full agreement that they are in dire need of a reality check and have no appreciation for their privileged positions and the opportunities they offer.

    HOWEVER :) if they are going along with a game plan that was decided on and sanctioned at higher levels, I wonder if the same posters would be prepared to say they were wrong to lay this level of criticism at W&K's feet...? I really wonder...

    Personally, I *do* wish we would see more of them, but I state it as a preference rather than a royal command. (Pardon the pun. :) It's one thing to disagree with the way the firm is conducting business, and we're all free to voice our opinions, but I do not understand *some* of the more personal accusations or anger directed at the couple.

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    1. I would love to be wrong about it. Sincerely. But at this point in time, I do not believe that is what is happening.

      I don't think it is particularly shameful that the subjects wish for WK to do their job and do it well. It really is so simple.

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    2. Stephanie, at this point, I believe their job is to answer to the Queen. :) And in photos I've seen of Charles with Kate, he seems to be relaxed and happy in her company. If there was any disappointment or friction there, I think it would show.

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    3. I'm with Stephanie. I'd like to be wrong too. And, yes, I have been wondering why I bother reading and posting here when the woman does absolutely nothing that interests me in a positive way these days.

      And I got even more depressed when I realized Harry isn't going to be People's Sexiest Man Alive this year either.

      Life sux.

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    4. HM is nearing 90. PP is in his 90s. C&C are in their late 60s (past retirement age for most people), and WK are healthy 30 somethings. Of course they should pick up the slack. Even members of the RF who are less senior, or even private citizens, work more than they do.

      No, I don't think they are stomping their shoes and wedges and saying "No!" to the Queen, but they don't have passion and a sense of duty (which is what everyone needs when doing any job) and that is something the Queen can't force within them.

      Also, HM and Charles could pass away next week.

      Also, you can't learn/prepare for a job if you don't do it.

      So no, I don't believe HM is telling them "Don't worry dears, you have plenty of time to shake hands and kiss babies. Take it easy." They just show little to no initiative.

      So why do I come here? Because I have hope that one day there will be a change. I don't know why, as an engagement ring certainly didn't flick on a switch.
      And I LOVE Kate's style about 80% of the time. And LOVE Charlotte's writing style and educational tidbits 100% of the time!

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  49. I kind of agree with Elizabeth above. I really like W&K, but it seems like Harry is really raising his profile while W&K are taking a trip to NY for wildlife conservation, which I'm not saying is unimportant but compared to some of the issues that Charles, Camilla and Harry take on doesn't seem like the best use of their time and talents.

    While nobody faults Kate for wanting to be a hands on mom, but she is really in danger of becoming a non-speaking, royal mannequin. Her causes are important, but nobody really can feel that she is that passionate about anything because she never speaks or gives interviews. If you never speak, you sort of stay a blank slate. I hate to compare people, but if you look at Diana, Princess Mary, Rania of Jordan you know and feel their passion. Is she as passionate about wildlife conservation as William is? I doubt we will find out because she will come to NYC and not say anything.

    I firmly believe W&K being in the background is not a "Charles" thing - he's not a dummy and knows that a young, good looking couple is always going to be the star. I mean, besides their tour of Australia what has William really done in the past year or so since he left Angelsey? He took a course at Cambridge for god only knows what, and has been studying for months for his "new" job. Harry, on the other hand, has organized the Invictus Games, traveled to Afghanistan for Remembrance Day and has been to various other functions for his causes. Harry really is the gem in the Royal family.

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    1. Your second alinea really nails it for me Melissa. We don't get an idea of the work she does, except attending gala's and workshops. But, I also honestly think we must give her some time.

      If I compare her to my Queen Maxima of the Netherlands, she really grew into her role. She married Willem-Alexander in 2002 aged around 30, they had three children is a short period of time and now that they (and she) are growing older she is doing some serious work besides her role as Queen Consort. She is into micro financing (small loans for farmers and enterpreneurs) and is representing the UN for this subject. She is doing amazing work! But, I must add, her succes is mostly due to her degree in economics AND very serious working experience in the financial world before marrying! She was working in NY and was vice president upcoming markets at a bank. For me, Maxima is a loving wife and mother, a graceful, intellegent and warm ambassador for our country, and a business women with a very influential and important role for developping countries.

      And here is the problem with Kate, I doubt she will ever have this kind of influence because her lack of career and working experience pre marriage and I also sense a lack of ambition. Her ambition seems to be to be Williams wife. Why otherwise was she working part time at Jigsaw and her parents? Only because she puts him first. It works perfectly for them, William looks like the happiest man on the planet and who can not want that for him.

      This is all fine by me, you can not forge a role on someone who doesn't want it. And I am not a British taxpayer ;). But for now I am losing interest in her exactly because of what Melissa says, she is to me a blank slate. I have never ever heard her opinion or saw her contribute in a serious way. She looks lovely when working with children in the hospices and very enthousiastic about sports, i must say. Let's hope she carves out a role for herself in the future. For now, it's just appearances and her looks.

      There is one other thing I must add 'cause I thought it many times reading these discussions here about her life style. If Kate would not have married William, I believe she would also now be a full time mom (maybe doing some charity work or work some more for her parents for fun), live in a nice house, wear nice clothes. If not William, it would have been another wealthy man. She was destined for such a luxury life, because of her parents wealth, her looks and charm and her homebird character. At least, this is what her actions tell me. Maybe we are all terribly wrong and she will be the hardest working royal ever once her children have grown up and William becomes first in line and later King. Time will tell!

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    2. I agree with you Fabulousdaan, Kate doesn't have much experience in the working world, and perhaps her desire is simply to be William's wife and support him in his role, and be a mother to their children. We all seem to have different expectations of her and some are disappointed in her in light of what they'd like to see.

      But Kate is what she is and we have no choice but to accept that, and sit at our computers wherever we are in the world and comment on this blog. Nothing will change her ambition or lack of ambition, and the fact that many posters would like to see her out and about more doesn't mean it will change the status quo.

      I read the blog regularly when I'm not working or there isn't something else that holds my attention and enjoy the lively debate. It's a waiting game as to what Kate forges out of her role in future and perhaps she herself doesn't know the answer to this at this point. The fact that William and Kate's marriage seems happy is positive, and they seem to complement each other. I'm sure they will do their best to raise well-balanced children, which in itself is quite an achievement.

      Fiona in Australia

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  50. hi everyone there other speech or duke Cambridge about ebola and daily mail reports that duke will play with lebron james and will be attended by beyonce and other stars
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2838587/Basketball-bosses-excitement-King-meet-Prince-Duchess-Marketing-man-s-dream-LeBron-James-greet-William-Kate-NBA-match-New-York.html
    and his message to ebola
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzclF7ATQhs&feature=youtu.be

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  51. I love this blog, and I love seeing what Kate wears. But really, it is fantasy land. The truth is we don't--and we never will--know her. We project our fantasies onto her. For some it's physical perfection: the length of her hem, the style of her hair, whether she has lint in her coat or a dangling string. For others, it's her values: she does, or doesn't "work" enough, she is, or isn't primarily a mother,,she should, or shouldn't have a nanny, etc. I think it's great to have a beautiful princess to be obsessed with. (And honestly, we all are, or we wouldn't be commenting on the blog.). But whatever we think or wish, we have absolutely no idea who she REALLY is. And if we did, we would lose the fantasy (which is the reason we are all here).

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  52. This site is once again becoming an opportunity for people to rant at Catherine.
    Free speech is all well and good when you know what you are talking about, but rather ill mannered when you are denigrating another country.

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    1. Can you give us some exact quotes where anyone is actually 'denigrating another country' ?

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    2. free speech is good simply because it is free - not because it is "mannered."

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    3. Americans have not been attacking Britain, they've been taking issue with the Royals asking reporters to dress up for formal events. It's all silly and I don't think anyone really cares much. People think it is Kate and William demanding special treatment because our press is full of lazy idiots.

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