Friday, 5 September 2014

Kate Loves: Royal Protection Officers

As Prince William's girlfriend, the then Kate Middleton became one of the most talked about and photographed women in the world. Paparazzi intrusion into her life reached fever pitch when she shared a flat with her sister Pippa in the heart of Chelsea, owned by their parents Mike and Carole Middleton. Determined paps would wait outside to photograph Kate leaving for work in the morning (she briefly worked as an accessories buyer for Junior Jigsaw), on family nights out, running errands, or when socialising with William the media interest was immensely intense.


The scene in Sloane Square in 2007 as Kate left Kitts nightclub with friends.


Following the announcement of William and Kate's engagement in November 2010, Kate's life would change in more ways than one. Never again would the future queen browse through her favourite shops, go supermarket shopping or enjoy one of her much-loved outdoor pursuits alone again. As members of the Royal family are considered potential terrorist targets, a team of protection officers from the Metropolitan Police were hand picked to watch over Kate 24 hours a day.


Royal protection is handled by the Royal Protection Command which provides protection to members of the Royal family both at home and abroad. The branch has responsibility for guarding royal residences as well as providing 24-hour uniformed guarding of certain buildings. The branch also offers protection for foreign royals visiting the United Kingdom.


The Royal Protection Command as we know it today was formed in 1983, but its role in protecting the monarch stretches back more than 150 years when officers had their work cut out for them protecting Queen Victoria - she survived five assassination attempts during her reign. During one incident, a would-be-assassin fired a gun at her as her carriage drove past St. James's Park, before he was overpowered by PC William Trounce.


More recently, Princess Anne's former protection officer, James Beaton, received the George Cross for his actions in protecting the Princess during an attempted kidnap in 1974. A man, Ian Ball, driving a Ford Escort forced the Princess's car to stop on Pall Mall before opening fire on, and injuring, Mr. Beaton who exited the limousine in order to shield the Princess. Mr. Ball approached the car and told Anne of his kidnapping plans, which were to hold her for ransom, before directing her to exit the car to which she replied, "Not bloody likely". (There's an interview with Princess Anne where she discusses the incident here.)

Anne visited James Beaton in hospital.


Below we see the Queen and Princess Anne with Mr. Beaton and others who helped to foil the attempt.


The above examples show the role of a royal protection officer brings unexpected situations and dangers meaning they have to be completely aware of individuals in the surrounding area of their principal ensuring they are safe at all times.


Acting Chief Inspector Nigel Partridge spoke about the role for this Met Police piece:

'As a PPO, you travel with your principal wherever he or she goes. You are assigned an individual, and you often get to know them very well. But we operate in a range of circumstances and we have to be very flexible. For example, we are there to protect members of the Royal family whether they are carrying out official duties or going on private holidays.'

When it came to selecting officers for Kate, two females were chosen to be part of the team (as far as we know there are still very few female protection officers; there were just three in total at the time of the engagement). This may have been done for a variety of reasons: to ease Kate into being accompanied constantly, and to blend in easier, to name two. The first officer we'll look at is Karen Llewellyn.


Karen is a petite blonde lady in her late forties who, when photographed with Kate, could easily be mistaken for a friend or a relative. However, she is highly skilled in martial arts and escape tactics and previously protected the King of Norway when he visited Britain and Princess Beatrice during her university days.


Speaking to the aforementioned Met Police magazine Karen said:

'When a principal is out and about, as a PPO, you are always thinking about the next stage. Is your principal moving on? When? Where is the car? Are there paparazzi around? What is the the threat, what is the risk? So it is never boring. You are always doing recces, thinking tactically and planning.'

Kate's other female protection officer, and perhaps the best known to readers, is Emma Probert.


Emma has been photographed with Kate numerous times, perhaps most notably when she sat in the front seat of the Rolls Royce which drove Kate and Michael Middleton from the Goring Hotel to Westminster Abbey for the royal wedding.


The sergeant, in her early forties, has suffered great personal tragedy and joy in her time protecting the royals. In 2009, her policeman husband died in a skiing accident while on holiday in the French Alps with his wife. Emma found love again with fellow royal protection officer Colin Childs and in 2012 she informed Kate she was expecting a baby. The Duchess was said to be "absolutely delighted" and joked "you beat me to it".

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Like Karen, Emma previously protected Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie, who were said to be very disappointed to lose her. It is believed Kate and Emma have forged a great bond over the past three years and have got to know each other really well. Today, Ms. Probert is regularly photographed accompanying Nanny Maria Teresa and Prince George on their walks around Kensington Palace.


Among others, this man has also been protecting Kate since 2011.


He accompanied Kate and George to watch Prince William play polo on Father's Day. As you can see he's keeping a close eye on the photographers.


With an officer who accompanied the Cambridges to Anglesey. 'Shall I drive or would you like to?'


As with all roles, William and Kate's protection officers sometimes leave for personal reasons or to pursue others roles. The Duke and Duchess were said to be "surprised and upset" when their chief bodyguard Chief Inspector John Hourihan decided to leave in order to take a position as head of security at Berkshire's secure psychiatric hospital, Broadmoor. Before protecting the Cambridges he worked as a PPO for the Earl and Countess of Wessex. It was not revealed who replaced Chief Inspector Hourihan.


It's interesting to take a look at the role of the protection officer and the level of commitment it requires. During a royal tour or a private holiday officers can expect to be away from their families for weeks at a time. It's a 24-hour job with varying shifts and responsibility to watch over some of the most high-profile people in the world. For Kate, it must have been a difficult transition to adjust to being accompanied at all times. Undoubtedly at times the lack of privacy must present its difficulties. Judging from photos, she appears to have good relationships with them and they can enjoy a giggle and a chat, which is very important for people who must spend so much time together.


What are your thoughts on royal protection officers and if, like Kate, you had round-the-clock protection how would you feel about it?

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  1. Hello everyone.

    These two engagements were added to Kate's calendar for next week. We'll have more info on them in our next post.

    September 10 - William, Kate and Harry will attend the Opening Ceremony of the Invictus Games, at the Olympic Park.

    September 11 - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and Prince Harry will attend a Drumhead Service at Lee Valley Athletics Centre.

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    1. Thanks, it's interesting to put some names to the faces in the background. Looking forward to new engagements and Malta!

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    2. What a nice unexpected Kate Loves Post! They are some of my favorite!
      I am glad the Kate and William and the Family are supporting Harry with the Invictus games! I wonder how many more events they will go for it?
      How long are the games? One week, more? Less? I can't wait to see them out and about!

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    3. Yea! Looking forward to this weeks engagements! I love to see Wills, Kate, and Harry together!

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    4. Pauline Oak Hills6 September 2014 at 00:08

      Hi Charlotte
      Any idea when the wedding in Italy is and if they are still attending?
      Great post.

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    5. I forgot about that wedding, when is it supposed to be? If they do go, then this will be a busy month for Kate. (Busy for her, as of late)

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  2. Sarah from Calif.5 September 2014 at 14:11

    Very interesting post. I would find it very had to get used to having someone with me always, especially since I like to pop out to the store whenever I want but, obviously Kate needs this and I'm glad she has found people she is comfortable with.

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  3. Sarah from Calif.5 September 2014 at 14:11

    Very interesting post. I would find it very had to get used to having someone with me always, especially since I like to pop out to the store whenever I want but, obviously Kate needs this and I'm glad she has found people she is comfortable with.

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  4. they should be grateful to royal protection officer glad you added the engagement thanks Charlotte

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    1. Why should they be grateful? I bet if they had their choice they would not have any. But with what is going on in this nasty world anymore, they need all the protection they can get.

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  5. I love these posts. It's so amazing to see the people that is always there but rarely seen! The only one I recognized was Emma! It's sad that these people are needed but good that they exist! You really have to have a job like that as your calling. Otherwise the job is so not worth it I think!!

    Love the story about Anne's kidnapping. Not all of it ofc!!! But her sassy response sounds like something the Queen could say :P Haha. Makes you think though. Walking around with a (more or less) target on your back.... I wonder how many kidnapping-, assignation-, terroristattacks that get prevented in the quiet. Some that probably even the targets don't know was prevented. (They probably don't tell Will and Kate about every threat) And some that the targets know about but not the public. We probably only get to know the big ones or the ones that is in the open so to say. That's why it sounds complainy when William complain about media, low flying planes etc. Yes, he thinks the media aspect of it sucks.. But moreso I think he knows the risk of it. If someone can take a long lens picture, they can use a rifle. If they can take low-flying pictures, they can drop bombs etc etc. And all the nannies where Maria studied are trained in self defense, martial arts and how to drive away from bad guys. Nanny Maria doesn't have to do all those stuff by herself since George has a bodyguard. But it's crazy that all nannies to the rich etc have to know this because of the risk of kidnapping.... Gives you a reality check....

    Also, great and expected that they will be at the Invictus games!! :D

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    1. You summarized my thoughts, Rebecca. That's what I thought about when they "complained" about the low-flying planes.

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  6. Charlotte, you continue to amaze me with your wonderful work on this blog. It's amazing and the only source I truly trust with William, Catherine or George news! So thank you so very much, your dedication has not gone unnoticed!!!

    On another note I find this Kate Loves really interesting, I've always wondered what their security was like and how it all worked. I for one would hate to have someone essentially following my every move 24/7, for that I give Kate kudos.

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  7. Interesting post. I like the look of the guy with Kate and George at the polo match......he looks formidable. I wonder if George has his own PO? And who are William's personal POs and are they also pilots?

    Mel in SoCal

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    1. George has a few. William and Kate would not let the nanny out with him without them.

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    2. As soon as it was announced that she was pregnant, Catherine had two PPO's at all times. So basically George had his PPO in utero. They are the same PPO's that Catherine has. When George is out with his nanny they have a PPO. They alternate between the ones that have been identified in this post.

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    3. Lulu, sorry for laughing. Nothing funny really... But "So basically George had his PPO in utero." just made me crack up :P

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  8. Shantel (@FashionandFaith)5 September 2014 at 16:47

    There's something about the photo of her leaving the nightclub and of her covering her face that make me kind of sad. I know that we all love seeing pictures and that, to a certain extent, Catherine knew what she was getting into by being with William but...wow. It makes me feel the same way that I felt when that old video was released last fall (I think) of she and Pippa walking home from a night out and all of the paps were taking pictures and following them. I think she stopped walking and asked them to please stop. She also said something about it being her "personal life".... They eventually backed off but one photographer called her something awful...it was all just a bit too much. Watching that exchange--just like seeing those pictures today--made me sad for her.
    Anyway, I have always been fascinated by security details: I've watched documentaries and read books on the US Secret Service (I secretly think I'd be a pretty awesome agent...LOL!), and have always wanted to know more about the people that we catch glimpses of in the photos of the Royals. Thanks for this cool post Charlotte!
    Have a great weekend,
    Shantel
    Minnesota, USA

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    1. I forgot about that, Yes that was a crazy video!

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    2. If a gang of men chased a young woman down a street at night, we would expect they would be arrested; but give them a camera and it's considered OK.
      Think to the girl, it would feel exactly the same.

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    3. So true Jean... Sad, but true. I don't understand why photographers have all these loopholes.

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    4. I agree, ladies. And I would just add that the "she knew what she was getting into" argument doesn't make it okay.

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  9. Really interesting post Charlotte, thank you. I can't imagine never being alone, just having a wnder around town and trapping a coffee and reading the paper in peace! Must be very tough to adjust to that!

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  10. Completely random observation ... Chelsea Clinton looks a lot like Princess Anne.

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    1. Jennifer from Wisconsin6 September 2014 at 07:48

      You think so? I spent time in California when Chelsea was in Stanford as her personal assistant for an appearance she had and I disagree but it's funny how we all see different things. :)

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  11. Marion from Germany5 September 2014 at 18:05

    What a nice idea to inform us about the protection officers. I definitely like it when those working in the background are also granted some well-deserved respect and (positive) attention.
    I assume it must have been very difficult for Kate to get used to the idea that she has protection officers around her 24/7. More frightening might have been the thought that there is a clear reason why she can never go out alone again for the rest of her life – she could be attacked by some weirdo any minute. This must be a threatening feeling.
    The only way out I can imagine is that you have to choose people as your protection officers who you personally like a lot. The picture with the three brunettes (Kate, Rebecca Deacon and Emma Probert) shows great sympathy between the three. I guess you cannot accept a person for such a long time in your life if you do not like them.
    On the other hand, how can you not like them if they are ready to sacrifice their own lives for you?! If I was in Kate’s place, I guess I always had the feeling of being obliged to the protection officers.

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  12. This was such a fascinating read! I had never thought much about the role of a protection officer or about how they and Kate must adjust their lives for safety. Really interesting, thanks Charlotte!

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  13. Thanks for the information Charlotte. I always expected that William and Catherine would support Harry---but glad The Prince of Wales and Duchess of Cornwall are going too.
    I imagine Catherine would have been glad when she was given protection straight after the engagement, she really had been hounded, in Bucklebury and in London. It must be odd though, having someone with you whenever you leave home.

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  14. I forgot to add, I loved seeing the old pics of Kate! I loved the gray coat with the fold over her shoulders, she looked so glamorous!

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    1. Oh. I love, love, looooove that coat!! One of my favorite things she has worn. Really want to see it again!

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    2. I agree with you, love seeing the old pictures of Kate!

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    3. I enjoy seeing the pre-engagement photos of Kate...

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  15. I would love to be accompanied at all times! I know I'd be safe from falling victim to the crimes the average folk experience of which terrorist attacks are not included :)

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  16. I think the guard with the keys and the shopping cart (in Anglesey?) was in quite a few of the pictures from Australia and New Zealand.

    Happy Birthday tomorrow (Saturday) to Pippa Middleton, who was born on my birthday, a whole lot of years later! I don't really hope she reads this forum, but I don't know where else to wish her a nice day. :-)

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  17. Thanks for the post Charlotte! As far as protection officers, it comes with the position. Kate obviously had a choice when it comes to the Royal life (I'm glad she chose it :) ), but William and now Prince George did not have the choice. I think Kate was given the time she needed and William wanted for her to grasp as much as possible what life in the family was like. A huge part of that is giving up your day to day freedom and a life with protection officers. Having protection is obviously not negotiable in today's world. I think it's great she has a warm and friendly relationship with them. Although it seems like Will and Kate have an excellent team, it's got to be a bit fearful every time they do an engagement or walkabout with hundreds of people knowing they are a target to some. I don't think I would like that part of it at all. From what I can see, it seems as though Kate has done a wonderful job adjusting to Royal life. As I said, this is something that William has always known, but she has adjusted beautifully in her role as future queen.

    I hope you have a wonderful and relaxing weekend Charlotte...and all your readers too!

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    1. Only the other week a man was in court and one of the things mentioned was a threat to kill the Duke and Duchess on their wedding day.
      William and Harry have been particularly threatened, because of their military service.
      I think that may very well be why engagements in this country are not announced until very close to the event.

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  18. Regarding POs. I know that there have been times in my life when I would have welcomed a PO; there were a few occasions when I found myself walking alone after dark in my hometown city, and times when I just had to get to my car in an underground parking lot--which gave me the heebie-jeebies. However, I would never, under any circumstances, want to be tailed 24/7/365 by protection officers--total invasion of personal space.

    In this day and age, I would think that thanks to tech advances, protection officers working for Will/Kate/George could and should back off just a bit. For instance, there is no real need for POs to spend time hanging around inside KP or Anmer Hall if both residences are properly equipped with alarm systems at all entry points. Nor is there any need for in-home cameras; instead, put those cameras to use patrolling the exterior of said homes--as well as lights, after dark, and if deemed necessary, infrared trips. In-house cameras and in-house cops are such an invasion of privacy that it smacks of the movie: The Truman Show--cruel and debasing.

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    1. Jennifer from Wisconsin6 September 2014 at 08:02

      Respectfully, I disagree with the second half of your comment. Cameras and security are not going to be watching their every move but they are essential to keeping creepy, curious and crazy people out. When you go to a bank or public monument, you run into the same security measures, but never are they intrusive to you. I think the same applies here and more. As you your excellent suggestions about outside security, that is still needed regardless of inside security. I thought the Truman Show had Jim Carrey in it. If so, I thought it was awful because he didn't know what was going on, Kate and William do. Better to literally be safe than sorry.

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    2. Several years ago an intruder got into the Queen's bedroom. The use of interior cameras is still crucial, as they helped find out how that incident happened and assisted in developing plans so it could not be repeated.

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  19. Thank you researching all this information on royal protection officers. I found it very interesting.

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  20. I just want to say I enjoy your posts regarding what I like to call the "behind the scenes" which surround the Royal Family. Very enjoyable and enlightening. Provides a different perspective on Royal Engagements and the amount of work that goes into them.

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  21. Personally, I would not be happy about having someone around 24/7, but a lot would depend on the personality of the individual. Kate seems to take a lot in her stride which is a good thing given her situation.

    And I'm looking forward to the two engagements. :)

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  22. PS.....and speaking of personalities, I'm sure the PPO's have their preferences too! :)))

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  23. Thank you for the extremely informative post, Charlotte. It made me think for quite a while about how much I admire the way Kate has dealt with all this. If I had people following me round-the-clock and I couldn't go anywhere alone I would go insane!! Plus I would be so frightened all the time of all the horrible things that could potentially happen. It made me think of Kate's job in a whole new light.
    On a lighter note, do you know anything about Kate's ladies-in-waiting or something like that?

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  24. So fascinating to read about the protection officers! To be totally honest I'm surprised there is much information to be had by the general public about them... you would think this information would be secretin for the protection of the Royals and the PPOs! Just my thoughts though, wonderful and fascinating post as usual Charlotte!

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    1. There is probably more protection officers we don't know about. These are the primary ones that are next to Will or Kate. There is probably others that are standing further away to get better look at crowds. And sometimes they must have POs in civilian clothing standing in the crowds. My guess is at bigger events (like the wedding, leaving the hospital after birth etc) they might have snipers on rooftops. This is all guessing. But ofc they have ALOT of protection we don't know about.

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  25. what an interesting post! thank you so much charlotte :)

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  26. Hi Charlotte! Thanks for the post! It's been a rather SLOW summer for the Duchess has it not? Please know how much I love this blog, and although I don't comment often, I am here reading and appreciating every word!

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  27. Another very interesting post! I love the story about Princess Anne. I always imagine she has a bit of pluck!
    I've always thought it would be nice to have a driver and a hairdresser.

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  28. What an interesting post. Loved it, particularly listening to Anne talk about her incident. It puts their lives into perspective, especially when living in London. I can understand them wanting to get out to the countryside. It may give them a bit more freedom when they step out their front door (or back). With private land they don't have to have someone standing directly beside or behind them. I think it would be a comfort to know someone is there with you in the worse case senario, but to think someone may die for you and be taken from their families would be extremely difficult to deal with. The constant reminder of your own mortality or vulnerability through having PPO's could be quite crippling and is a huge counter for all the perks, glitz and glamour that is percieved as being part of the royal family. For all that you gain from it, I don't think it would be the life for me.

    KiwiNic

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  29. Bonnie C, Philadelphia, PA USA6 September 2014 at 01:33

    Hi Charlotte...I've been following your blog for a few months and really enjoy it. It is not only very informative, like today's subject on protection officers, but written in such a positive, thoughtful manner that I think even Duchess Kate would appreciate it. Thank you! As you mentioned today, it must be hard for the Duchess to be surrounded by personnel. However, from everything you read or hear about Kate, she seems like a remarkable woman who loves her husband and country. May God's blessings be with her always.

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  30. I don't think I'd be too happy with people following me around all that time. On the other hand, it'd be nice, if I were Kate, to have someone there to keep the photographers from getting to close, and keep the crazies away.

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  31. anon from Leominster6 September 2014 at 04:41

    Lovely post, Charlotte. You really should collect the "Kate Loves" series for a book. Don't know how much market there is for royal books these days, hopefully some.

    Thrilled to see The Royal Digest is back. Hope all here take a look. Some very interesting couples with Frederik and Mary - love her outfit, and Albert and Charlene. Can't believe she is going to give birth in December.

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  32. Im glad Catherine is wonderfully protected as their are tons of cruel and sick people that wish her and the royal family harm.

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    1. You hit the nail Mellie. I always feel anxious when I watch Royal ceremonies. I just can't help it. This world has become a mess.

      Happy week end to all and many thanks to you Charlotte.

      Monica, France

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  33. Thank you so much for your comments everyone!

    Lately we've been looking at the people in Kate's life for our Kate Loves series. We had George's first year, Rebecca Deacon and Royal Protection Officers. I have several more planned for this season.

    On another note, with three engagements pencilled in for next week it's great to see Kate with official appearances listed again :)

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    1. That sounds really fun that you have more planned. Really like these posts. (Before I started commenting here I left a comment under About with inspiration on posts :P. See you don't need it :P)

      Yes, it is great to see. Always looks so sad when that box is almost empty.

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  34. These Kate Loves....are so interesting and educational. The whole idea surrounding protection officers, security guards, bodyguards, secret service, etc. gives one great pause. They not only must have all the abilities to render protection but give up long periods of time away from their own families. It is good to hear that perhaps they do develop some type of relationship with those they hover over.

    Kate did know what she was getting into long before receiving her own personal security team. Those 9 to 10 years prior to her engagement were filled with education and experiences as to how her future would be. One example was that William would have had his protection officers with him during all his time spent with Kate. With all that hounding prior to the official engagement announcement, Kate must have felt such a relief to have her own female protection officers. I wonder if after while they in fact oblivious to their being around (if that makes sense of what I am trying to express) or so use to their presence they feel comfortable to be themselves and their conduction of their lives.

    Thank you so much, Charlotte.



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  35. I love your Kate Loves Posts!

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  36. Like this post. Especially the old pictures. Maybe they will remind everyone why Catherine really couldn't do a normal professional job while she was 'waiting'. If she knew Will was the one for her why would she put herself through that every day. It's hard enough to get out to work every morning. I wouldn't bother if I had an option to work privately and avoid being photographed every morning.

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    1. Shantel (@FashionandFaith)6 September 2014 at 17:48

      That is a really good point. It wouldn't be easy to get up each morning and face that craziness without any protection; it was probably terrifying. Not to mention the imposition on any coworkers who are going to and from the office....
      Shantel
      Minnesota, USA

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    2. Bingo! The lights are coming on for people. Even the Queen was guilty of finding her lacking in this respect. Ironically, Catherine DID work. She worked for her parents' business. If people think that just because the Middletons are now wealthy they can coast and leave the family business details to others, they've never owned their own business.

      I'm quite sure Catherine would have loved the freedom to use her fine mind and abilities for a profession of her choosing at that stage of her life. Instead, she chose what might be considered a "calling." Highly commendable, really.

      Look at Chelsy and Cressida. They chose to fulfill their own lives in spite of Harry's charms. It can't have been easy for Catherine to wait through the uncertainty and criticism

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    3. And to say that Catherine didn't have the freedom to use her fine mind and abilities for a profession of her choosing is a little problematic - if she was the natural-born royal, and William, a commoner, had been courting her, no one would have said that he could not use his fine mind and abilities for a profession of his choosing. And this is exactly why it's hard to respect her. It just makes me sad that she is so famous, when all she has done is marry well. She has literally no personal achievements of her own. I have nothing against stay-at-home moms, but she even has a nanny. Yet does very little, appearance-wise. I'd be fine with her not working, except it's like she spent 10 years not working and preparing to be a royal, yet is still not really being a royal because of a lack of appearances now. At what point are people going to stop babying her and say "Hey, sometimes life is hard. Your reasons for why life is hard are better than like 99% of the population. Suck it up"?

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    4. anon from Leominster8 September 2014 at 00:21

      Kate spent substantial periods of the time while working for her parents in London, shopping and clubbing, not all of which was even when Prince William was with her. The press was no doubt an annoyance (although during the break-up, she used them to her advatage) but they didn't cause much of a retreat from London until Kate moved in with William.

      I suspect Kate worked for her parents because it gave her complete freedom to accomodate William's schedule. She certainly may have worked hard for them at times - it is a serious business - but it was the only job when she could get time off whenever she wished without annoying fellow employees.

      The only career goal Kate ever stated was to be a teacher. She could easily have pursued that goal and even taught at a school outside of London. Many schools have protected grounds. But even before she was well-known, Kate didn't make any effort to go forward with any career.

      I like Kate and think she has great potential but I'm not starry-eyed about her past. I think she had one career goal - to be the wife of Prince William. There's nothing wrong with that except it didn't leave her much realistic working experience. It seems like now there is a certain element of "what now?" to Kate, once she had achieved that initial goal and the buzz of the first year has worn off.

      The other royal women in Europe who did have jobs mostly held them before they were seriously dating their princes and again they seem to have mostly have concentrated on learning to be a princess in the year or so before their marriage. Maxima and Mary had to move to their new homeland and learn the language, as did Charlene.

      I think Chelsy and Cressida are both free spirits as well as being ambitious, and that the attention may not have been the only deterant. Royal life may simply not have appealed that much- it carries enormous privilages, but if done well, a lot of responsibility with it. Possibly, this new girlfriend - if she is one - Camilla, will be better suited since her career dovetails with royal duties more closely.

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    5. Those who study birth order say that the oldest daughter in a family is likely to become a homemaker and mother. Her younger sister is more likely to enter business or a profession. It's interesting that Catherine and Pippa seem to be following the predicted pattern. It could explain a lot of what we observe about Kate, and also the difference between her and Diana. I continue to believe that Kate's real achievements should be acknowledged and respected, and that we should expect her future to reflect who she really is.

      It is also interesting that William and Catherine are both oldest children. This could mean that they have to balance the dominance in their marriage. They are no doubt both strong personalities with definite ideas about how they should live. They are fortunate that they have had plenty of time to create a relationship that works well for them and, so far, for their situation in life.

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    7. I don't think anyone should or has to make excuses for Kate. In this day and age, women should have the ability to live their lives as they see fit without it being an issue for other women. *That* concept, IMO, would be more in line with woman having freedom and options in a modern world. Women shouldn't be judged for choosing motherhood over a career, and nor should they be judged for choosing a career over motherhood.

      And my goodness, if working for Party Pieces offered her sanity, safety and flexibility, why on earth wouldn't she have done so? We can talk about Maxima and Mary until the cows come home, but they did not meet their princes at university. We don't know what paths they would have followed if they had.

      And Harry's former girlfriends certainly qualify as free spirits. However, the ambitious part is easier when mom and dad have money so let's be fair when we talk about Kate having advantages. But one can also look at these two ladies as not having what it takes to make it as members of the royal family. From a young age, Kate had the poise, class and maturity to get it right. And my goodness that counts for something. Had Chelsy and Cressida been determined to walk down the aisle at Westminster Abbey, it would not have made them anymore suitable to join the firm.

      Deep breath................I needed to get that off my chest. :))

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    8. Applause and cheering from the gallery Royalfan :-)
      Hear hear!!
      Simone

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    9. Royalfan, you have outdone yourself with this post. Well done and encore cheering from the gallery!

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    10. Bravo, royalfan!

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    11. You go Royalfan! Thank goodness someone had the balls !

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  37. I'm curious, how did Ms Probert carry on her duties while pregnant.? Clearly she was compromised as far as potentially taking a shot for her principal. Did she switch to another role for the duration?

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  38. @ Erininnyc. My understanding is that Ms Probert took several months of maternity leave.

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  39. Hi everyone,
    I found a picture on a blog I follow, that I havent seen before and wanted to share it with you :) I am unsure exactly when it was taken... perhaps sometime between 2002-2006?
    http://heavyarethecrowns.tumblr.com/post/96760975885

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    1. Thank you, Stephanie. :) William looked so young in that photo! Kate not so much in comparison.

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  40. To trounce must have come from PC William Trounce who saved Queen Victoria. The world come to use in 1868.
    Great post!

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  41. Stephanie, thanks for sharing the link to the picture of Will and Kate. I'd never seen that one before.

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  42. looking forward tomorrow engagement

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  43. Charlotte,
    Doubtless you have heard the newa that Catherine is pregnant and is suffering as before, being treated at Kensington Palace. She will not be at Oxford today.

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  44. anon from Leominster8 September 2014 at 10:56

    Most exciting news, Charlotte!!! Wonder what this will mean to Malta.

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  45. Thank you for another informative post Charlotte.

    I saw in BBC facebook just now that Kate and William are expecting their second child. Kate is suffering from acute morning sickness and she is not going to attend today's event.

    Oh my... Im having Kate's withdrawal... but im also very happy for them.

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  46. Silvia from Portugal :))))))8 September 2014 at 11:03

    Dear Charlote and Dear All,
    Good morning.
    Have you heard PC and PW are expecting their second child!!!! I am so excited with these news.
    Charlote I am sure that you will prepare us a great post of these lovely news.
    I have been preventing my self of commenting because there have been so many criticisms to PC which have despleased so much...Charlote i am a loyal follower and I check this blog several times a week :)))
    The gratest lesson? This couple nows their way and they have the bridle of their life!!! They are taking time to have their own family, enlarge it and provide them all the love before they persue their natural way.. Not saying that they are not going to provide love to their children once they become full royals but I guess you know what I mean!!
    Waiting for a new post :)
    I am so thrilled :)))
    Silvia from Portugal
    Silvia from Portugal :)))

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  47. Hurry Hurry Charlotte & Co, the Duchess is pregnant!!!

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  48. so the news are out. She's pregnant again :) Thought so myself. Why wait, when the husband is occupied for the Minimum of the next two years and not entering the whole royal Show (fulltime royal).
    I'm also pretty sure that this time it will be a girl! :)
    http://www.babycenter.com/chinese-gender-predictor I entered mid Juni (she is not at the crucial 12 weeks). even if she conceived in July it would be a girl. (i used this for all my friends and me and it was always right! O_O)
    I'm so happy for them both, children are wonderful!

    CU Amy

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  49. Nerida, Australia8 September 2014 at 11:34

    Clarence House has just released a tweet confirming that the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge are expecting their second child. A big congratulations to them!

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  50. Eagle eyed aussie8 September 2014 at 12:20

    She's pregnant! Official

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  51. I just read that William and Kate were expecting #2! What fabulous news to start off a Monday morning! Many prayers for a good, and healthy pregnancy and for a happy, healthy baby!

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  52. CONGRATS WILL AND KATE!! Another baby yay!
    But thinking of Kate, as she has fallen ill again:(

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  53. the duchess is pregnant she is expecting her second child

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  54. Has anyone seen the news that Kate is pregnant with #2???? I am soooo thrilled!!!!! We got married within a few months if each other, were pregnant with #1 together and I am ten weeks with #2 so I've been joking with my friends that she is going to get pregnant soon! I am beyond excited for her and definite feeling some solidarity with her morning sickness!

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  55. here announcement
    http://www.princeofwales.gov.uk/media/press-releases/the-duke-and-duchess-of-cambridge-are-expecting-their-second-child

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  56. Well it appears tge Duchess of Cambridge won't be at tomorrow's engagement. At least she has a valid reason. Hyperemesis gravidarum is horrible and sucks any energy you have right out of you. Praying it is short lived and that it doesn't change her trip to Malta! So exciting!

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  57. May I come very late to this discussion to bring a very different point of view? For a variety of reasons I had bodyguards until a short stint in Washington DC just before uni. I felt utterly abandoned without them. I learnt most practicalities of life (how to ask where the WC is, laugh not please) very quickly and as I had evidently picked up on the things they picked up on became intuitively wary and street smart. But I have always felt a little uncomfortable around men who were not physically strong, often to my detriment - in more ways than one, in that I could have chosen, had I been wiser when young (and not so young) to marry one of several suitors who provided bodyguards. So whilst I've no earthly idea what it feels like to grow up without them and "suddenly" (although I cannot think why bodyguards were not discretely provided before marriage?) have them, I can tell you very well that these fine personal protection officers are completely unobtrusive at one moment and one's best friend when needed; they literally protect one from what keeps one up at night (the sights I saw as I small child I still have nightmares about as a crusty old lady) and literally become family members. (I have no Earthly idea how they feel about us, except my family kept the same my whole life, educated their children, and pensioned them). I frankly do not understand the faintly derisive or disbelieving terms news articles always use when a Member of the RF is described as "shocked" or "hurt" when a PPO or longtime member of staff moves on. I dare say they are.

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