Thursday, 5 December 2013

Kate takes George for a Stroll in Kensington Gardens

The Duchess of Cambridge has been photographed out and about with four-month-old Prince George publicly for the first time. The new mother took her son out in his stroller along with their dog Lupo for a leisurely walk in Kensington Gardens. PopSugar has several photos from the walk on their website.

Kensington Gardens/Wikipedia

Kate's casual look was a departure from the glamorous papyrus tiara and Alexander McQueen gown she donned the night before for her first white-tie event, the annual Diplomatic Reception at Buckingham Palace.


Kensington Gardens is a splendid place for a stroll and its incredibly close proximity to Kensington Palace makes it an ideal place for Kate to enjoy a walk. Below we see Kate enjoying the grounds in her Temperley London Odele coat with a friend just over a year ago. The Duchess is regularly spotted there, although I believe this is the first sighting with George.

What Kate Wore Facebook/With thanks to Sandra

Royal commentator Victoria Arbiter noted little George's stroller appears to be by Silver Cross. Considered the 'world's most exclusive pram' according to the Daily Mail, a Silver Cross has carried The Queen, her children, grandchildren and now her great-grandchild. Last month it was reported the Cambridges are such fans of the pram they had it flown up to Scotland during their stay in Balmoral.

The carriages were invented in 1877 by William Wilson and became hugely popular in the 1960s. William's mother Diana spent her early days in the luxury buggy.

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Let's take a closer look at George's stroller, the Silver Cross Sleepover Elegance Body in black. No doubt the brand will become even more popular following the royal sighting. The £650 pram is available at John Lewis, a department store we know Kate regularly frequents.


John Lewis

Below we see the stroller in black and cream. It is available at John Lewis.


John Lewis

It is described this way:

'The Silver Cross Sleepover Elegance Body combines contemporary design with the elegance of the Silver Cross Heritage Range, for the ultimate in baby comfort and style. With a super-snug pram liner and breathable mattress, the lie flat carrycot, that's suitable from birth is finished with the elegant design details associated with Silver Cross.'

Kate kept warm in her Barbour Defence Jacket (with thanks to one our commenters and Ashley Marie) and Zara sweater worn with a scarf and a baseball cap she previously wore in 2008, you can see photos here. It is difficult to determine which jacket Kate is wearing; there are an array of similar Barbour Jackets available at Orvis.

Orvis

The Duchess also appears to have worn her favourite J Brand Skinny Jeans.  The navy luxe twill jeans feature faux front pockets and patch back pockets. They're 98% cotton and 2% Lycra. They've been a staple in Kate's wardrobe over the past couple of years and we've seen her wearing them on numerous occasions. The $169 jeans are available at J Brand. Below we see Kate wearing them at a recent SportsAid engagement.

J Brand

Kate's gloves are by Fownes (with thanks to Ashley Marie); many readers will recall the Duchess first wore them during a 2011 visit to St. Andrews University.

The British Monarchy

The gloves are described as "soft nappa leather with lambswool/angora blend lining". US readers may be interested to know the brand's gloves can be purchased at Nordstrom although Kate's pair sold out quite some time ago.

What Kate Wore/ebay

These are the first paparazzi shots taken of Kate with George, and it remains to be seen how the Palace will react. Discussion between royal photographers on Twitter suggests there may be repercussions although the Palace tends to choose their battles carefully. It brings up the privacy issue again and what is acceptable and unacceptable for members of the British Royal Family. Should Kate be photographed when she's with George? What are your thoughts?

We'll be back tonight when William and Kate attend the premiere of Mandela. I expect Kate will choose a fabulous gown for the event!

72 comments:

  1. Pauline Oak Hills5 December 2013 at 02:02

    Thank you Charlotte for the new update. I think Kate deserves to be left alone while she is with the baby. But I know some here will not agree with me. Yes she was in a public place but that does not mean it is fair game for the pap to be taking photos of her with Prince George. I can just imgine what William is thinking and might be upset that his wife can not even take their baby out for a walk. I think they should get an agreement like they did when William was in college.

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  2. Unfortunately, there are tons of people that have the mentality that since no law is being broken, it is perfectly acceptable. I do not agree with this. Hopefully papp was at a distance. Bnnie

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  3. Sarah from Calif.5 December 2013 at 02:14

    Hi Charlotte. Thanks for the up date. Hope you are well. Must be sooo hard on Kate to not get out as much as she would probably like with George.
    Looking forward to the next set of pictures:)

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  4. Hey Charlotte,
    thank your for the update. I check your blog every day.
    To be sincere, I prefer to see her in jeans and jacket. Those pictures became so rare.
    As Pauline says, she took a public place and I have the impression that here the pap kept distance. So it's ok I think.
    Regards from Germany!

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  5. I agree with Pauline - it's such a delicate balance...they are public figures but also deserve to enjoy simple things like taking the baby for a walk. I adore taking my own little son for walks, I would hate to think that was robbed of me. At the same time, the public (including us) love to see photos and know what they're up to - as long as the demand is there the paparazzi will try to get the snaps. Maybe they should agree to release some photos or set up periodic photo shoots? William would likely hate that idea but maybe it would help?

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    1. yes I agree! I believe a photo shoot from time to time would help! We haven`t seen the two (Mother and son) since the hristening and everyone is curious. I feel bad for her that she can`t enjoy a walk in the park without worrying about paparazzi...

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    2. I feel the same...sometimes its nice to just able to blend in and be normal...shes not at work. I have to admire her tenacity in showing that she doesn't care about the paparazzi...and just wants to get out of stuffy Kensington palace for I nice walk with child and dog. Kate is so emotionally well rounded

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    3. Along the same lines as a photo shoot, it would be AMAZING if Kate or William joined Instagram. I'm sure it would never happen, but that way they could show their fans a little more behind-the-scenes action while still being in complete control. Think of how tremendously popular it would be. :-)

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    4. I hope they do release pictures from time to time as they did with William. But I do not believe they should go the Instagram route; that's more celebrity-ish. :)

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    5. Kate looked really unhappy that she was being photographed in those pictures and I don't think she was waving to a friend, I think she was signalling her body guards that there was a photographer there. British tabloids will not publish photos of her in her private life, so of course it was an American tabloid that was taking advantage of the situation. It is a complete violation of her privacy.

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    6. She chose to walk in a public park and therefore relinquished her privacy. If she prefers to not be photographed, the gated and protected grounds of Kensington Palace provide privacy for an outdoor stroll with the young prince.

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    7. The other royal families in Europe do this quite often in exchange for privacy for their children. While it's true that they don't have to deal with as much press attention as the British royals, I think it would be nice if the Windsors did a few photoshoots at different times of the year to show off their family. Now that William is married, he could do what the king of the Netherlands did with his daughters, a couple annual family pictures where the press is invited to take as many photos during a short photoshoot and then they agree to give them privacy for when the children are at school etc.

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  6. I agree with you completely!

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  7. I looked at the pictures and was pleased to NOT see the baby, just Kate and the pram. While I agree they should be afforded some privacy (like being able to sunbathe in a private villa in France), taking a walk in the public gardens in London and having pictures taken from a distance is more "fair game" in my mind.

    That being said, if there had been up close and personal photos of the baby in his pram, I would have an issue. I also bet this is not the first time Kate has walked with the baby, but this is the first time we've seen photos.

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  8. I don't think BP will make an issue of this for two reasons. First, Charles and William were photographed in similar circumstances when they were infants. And second, it doesn't appear that the photographer was right on top of her. They may not be thrilled with it, but I don't see this as being terribly intrusive. Besides, if Kate is a hands-on mother (lucky for George), it doesn't hurt for the public to see the reality of it.

    But I am a little surprised that the PPO isn't closer to Kate (I don't see him/her in the photos).

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    1. The officers don't surround the royals so as to give them some privacy and personal space and they never have.
      They certainly were with her when other casual photos were snapped (the pic of Kate and Carole and the Moses basket) and they weren't in the film then either. I'd expect that, like other security details, they try to keep out of the photos so as not to be recognized and provide better protection.
      You can bet they were very close and close enough to react if someone approached. They also judge the threat level for the time, location and activity and space themselves accordingly.
      That's why you see a ton of security on the walk to the church on Christmas Day and at the official engagements and fewer officers when it's a more casual setting.
      My guess, from the PopSugar photos, is that the paparazzi was quite a distance away. Telephoto lenses and digital cameras have come a long way and you can make a photo shot from a distance look like it was taken much closer to the subject.
      I agree though, I don't think the palace will make much of a fuss. Kate has been photographed walking in the park before and was aware of it then too. And as you pointed out, royalfan, these aren't terribly intrusive photos, just standard pap shots, really not too different than the Anglesey grocery store pics.
      I'd add that one of the reasons that Chelsy Davy reportedly broke up with Harry is that she didn't want to live in the spotlight and the public eye. She experienced a little of that when they were dating and apparently decided she didn't want more of it. I'd simply observe that Kate experienced it when she and William were dating (to a much greater degree at times, since she didn't always have protection officers) and, apparently, decided she wanted that life. It's no judgment on either one of them, some choose the life in the spotlight and in the fishbowl, some decide they don't want to live that life.
      I'd also agree that it certainly doesn't hurt Kate's image to be seen doing normal, everyday things like pushing her son for a walk in his carriage.
      A side note question - has it been very warm in London? I notice Kate is wearing gloves with her jacket but sneakers with no socks!!

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    2. I think she's got little shoe socks on with a yellow top - they skirt around the ankle bone but don't come up the leg...

      I think it's lovely to see Kate doing normal things she must long for that freedom but I agree with others that she was fully aware of what she was marrying into.

      If there is no risk and they keep their distance it's fine in public places.

      I've said it before though and if they adopt the same approach as CP Victoria & Daniel have with Estelle and photos are regularly released the appetite for this type of photos goes away...

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    3. Jean from Lancs.5 December 2013 at 12:56

      I married a man whose job meant that he could be (and was) moved often from one end of the country to another at very short notice, not something I liked, but one accepts the drawbacks because of the man you love.
      I rather doubt that Catherine would have chosen to have her every movement under a microscope--but accepted it because she loved Prince William.

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    4. I agree!!! I've been trying to find the right words in order to convey my feelings about that...well said! She is "excepting a life of non privacy because of the man she loves

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    5. Regina, that's a good point about lenses and distance. I guess they do try to allow a degree of respectful privacy.

      But I do not believe that Kate "wanted that life". I just think she loved William and was willing to accept the rest of it as part of the package.

      Regarding Harry's former girlfriend, we can look at her and say she is a modern, free-spirited young woman who wasn't willing to live in the spotlight.......or we may wonder if she didn't love him enough to take it on. Personally, I'm in full agreement with Jean on this one.

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  10. Emily J. sm village IL5 December 2013 at 03:13

    If kate is in public w Georgie and the public is not to aggressive and then it should b fine. but if they are to aggressive and try to get a reaction on purpose, then most publictions should not post them.

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  11. I've been wondering Kate would finally take George out for a stroll. I think as long as the photographers stay at a reasonable distance it should be ok. I'm sure she had plenty of protection officers with her in case someone got too close. I'm one of the photos she looks fully aware that she is being photographed. She looks relaxed and happy like any mom out for a walk in the park with her baby.
    Thank you Charlotte for the unexpected update.
    How do you feel about the photos?

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    1. Hello Blair,

      It's always a tough call. As a blogger, I want to have all the latest news and photos and provide them for readers and in general a walk through Kensington Gardens (once Kate is not being hassled) and the photographer is a good distance away seems ok. As a high profile figure there will always be the occasional candid, although they are becoming rarer and rarer.
      However, I hate to think of a new mother taking her baby for a walk and feeling harassed so it's very much a difficult situation which is why I was eager to get feedback.

      Blair, you asked me about Cressida in an earlier post. She and Harry appear to be enjoying a great relationship at the moment, with as much privacy as one can expect in their position. I'd love to see Harry settle down as William has.

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    2. I always love hearing your opinion on these kind of topics Charlotte. I respect you and your blog very much. Although you keep us up to date on all the latest Kate news and sightings you do it in such a classy and tasteful way. Thank you for that. I hope Kate and her family get the privacy they deserve. It looks as if Kate was trying to go incognito hence the baseball cap. She normally does not wear them while out in public.

      I think Harry's girlfriend Cressida is a beautiful girl. Not sure about her style choices at times though :) I hope he's happy and has found the one.
      But I must admit I always wanted him to marry Chelsy Davy!!!

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    3. bluhare in Washington State5 December 2013 at 04:25

      Seeing as you're talking about Cressida, that really is a lovely photo of her. And one of the worst ones of Kate! Don't know why they couldn't have used a more flattering shot.

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    4. Bluhare I agree with you 100%. That was one of the more polished looking pictures of Cressida, normally she looks a little scruffy. She has that boho style.

      I don't think it's going to get any better regards to the whole Kate vs. Cressida topic. The DM wrote an article awhile back comparing the two and saying that at the moment Cressida was winning. It was very tacky. Any woman Harry dates and will marry will always have the stigma of being compared to Kate since she was "there first" it's silly and I feel sorry for Cressida.

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    5. Cressida is a bohemian aristocrat type. They don't have to "dress up". They usually dress.down. They already have the class anf try not to conspicuous about it. (Rich ruff).. kate is new middle-class rich from middle England. Totally different. If u can imagine Emma Watson (Harry Potter fame) who is similar to kate Middleton suddenly married into royalty., there u have it. Our Kate is ok. She is our kate

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    6. bluhare in Washington State5 December 2013 at 15:42

      I think it's silly as well, Blair. Why Kate would feel threatened or care in any way is beyond me.

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  12. Oh i love the pics i thank you for fast update and yes the duchess deserve to be alone with the baby i know its pair game for them to take a photo or snap its not right to be treat like that im looking forward to next outing a red carpert

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  13. bluhare, to answer your question from the last thread, I believe that Camilla's birthday interview comments about Charles being very active had two purposes...first to promote him (and by default, her) as the NEXT in line because, IMO, W&K's marriage has both C&C sitting up a little straighter these days.


    And second, yes it was a bit of a jab at the younger generation. But it was so subtle that it wouldn't be seen as a threat to the "united" front of the RF. As I said before, she is very shrewd. Her birthday interview was nothing short of brilliant and the journalist did an equally fine job of adding tidbits to make it a chronological summary of their relationship.


    I believe W&K's marriage ruffled the York's feathers as well. Sarah reminisced (on Oprah of all places!) about her own day in the Abbey (pretty sad interview). And, in general, I suspect the Yorks have not appreciated being pushed that much farther from the central spotlight.


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/prince-charles/10449188/The-Duchess-of-Cornwalls-frank-interview-shows-strength-of-marriage.html

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    1. bluhare in Washington State5 December 2013 at 04:42

      I think you're dead on about Camilla on this one, royalfan. I think a lot of people, over here in the US anyway, think that William will be, or should be, the next king and he and Kate are not first to be King/Queen. Charles and Camilla are. And I do think she'll be Queen Camilla.

      That's interesting about the jab at the younger generation though. That would imply that the RF, or at least Charles, thinks William and/or Kate aren't working enough. Not wanting to get any metaphoric bread rolls thrown at me, I'm not sure what to say about that other than William calls the shots in his house. I think Kate's always done what he wants.

      But the Yorks. Andrew is supposedly angry at Charles for starting to freeze his family out (vis a vis that last balcony where only Charles' direct descendants and spouses were up there with the Queen), which means B&E would have to get and keep jobs. I find it interesting that he thinks his children should be treated better than Anne's as Zara and Peter do support themselves. It's so snobbish. Which brings me to the order of precedence thing. Supposedly, there's no love lost between Kate and B&E, and Anne didn't want to curtsey to Kate. So the three of them don't have to unless William's in the room with her. If she's not with William she has to curtsey to them. Poor Sophie has to curtsey to everyone. It just boggles my mind they curtsey to each other when they're at home.

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/theroyalfamily/9351571/The-Queen-tells-the-Duchess-of-Cambridge-to-curtsy-to-the-blood-princesses.html

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    2. Another great discussion from royalfan and bluhare!! I was just checking what's new and trying to hold my tongue on the "Kate shouldn't be photographed anywhere ever, poor thing" usual treacle. So this is a welcome diversion and I LOVE these intelligent, civil discussions about the actual politics inside the family because it fascinates me!!
      So, my two cents' worth ... first of all, William won't be the next king. It will be Charles unless, of course, William outlives his father. The Queen is said to have strictly forbidden any skipping over and/or abdication, since she is so acutely aware that she and her family wouldn't have the wealth, power and status they enjoy today if not for the abdication of Edward VIII.
      In addition, I've read multiple reports that Charles is absolutely focused on becoming king. He's known to live a very regal lifestyle and reportedly looks forward to becoming king.
      I posted this in the earlier post but I think Camilla is extremely shrewd and the lovefest we see in photos at engagements is not exactly what happens in private.
      Certainly Camilla has to be jealous of William and Kate, who do half as much (more metaphoric bread rolls coming my way, bluhare!) and get twice as much media and attention for the events they do appear at.
      bluhare, I agree with you about the dynamic in the Cambridge household. I think William does call the shots and Kate defers to him. That being said, I think she and her mother have an enormous amount of influence over him and it's going to be interesting to see how that plays out once Charles is king, Camilla is queen or queen-consort and William is the heir.
      I've read the story about Andrew and Charles before and the friction among Anne, Charles and Andrew has been well-known for years. I do recall reading that Charles, in a move that was seen as partly financial, made changes that essentially eliminated everyone by himself, Camilla, William, Kate and Harry from the ranks of the senior royals.
      Andrew uses his royal connections to increase his own income and I seem to recall that he was furious about the changes made by Prince Charles. Among them, his daughters were going to be made to pay rent on their apartment in St. James's Palace and they lost their taxpayer-funded bodyguards. All this was in the news in December 2012. They have also been eliminated from undertaking full-time royal duties. Princess Eugenie joined an art auction firm in New York City. Princess Beatrice had a job in finance that she's reportedly quit.
      As for "no love lost," all the reports I've read point to Kate being friends with both Beatrice and Eugenie while she was dating William. Beatrice and Chelsy Davy are said to be good friends and the two blood princesses seemed to be close to William and Harry prior to William's marriage. I've read social column reports of them still going out partying with Harry from time to time.
      I don't think Princess Anne has any use for any of her siblings or their children. Her children have more or less made their own way without benefit of even a title so I'm sure the constant headlines for the partying and the fashion show appearances and minor events the others attend can't sit well with Anne, who is one of the hardest-working members of the family and undertakes a huge calendar of engagements.
      But bluhare, I agree about the curtsying. It stuns me that they curtsy to each other in private. If there's anything that typifies how outdated the royals can be at times, that has to be toward the top of the list. It really paints them as a very cold bunch.
      Thanks for the great convo and thanks to Charlotte for allowing it again!
      It may not interest or bore or even anger others but these maneuverings and politics and behind-the-scenes things are as much and will be as much a part of Kate's life (and probably a bigger part actually) as the official engagements, the jewels, and the haute couture ensembles!!

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    3. bluhare and Regina, I am enjoying this discussion. :)

      bluhare, I also think there's a bit of irony in what I perceive to be a jab at the younger generation's work load. I've always felt that Charles was quite happy to have his sons tucked away in the military rather than taking on more royal duties because of the star power the two generate. IMO, he didn't object to the view (by some) that his sons were not ready for f/t royal duties. If you compare the way some of the European royals bring the younger generation into the mix, the difference is remarkable. Charles was more interested in having Camilla by his side and selling her as the next Queen than he was of bringing his sons into the spotlight. And now add Kate to the mix, and oh boy! He resented Diana's star power and now we're seeing a bit of deja vu...also known as karma! They just connect with the public in a way that he cannot.

      Camilla can smile directly at as many photographers as she wishes (and boy does she...just check out Getty and look at the series of shots of any event) and she adds the down to earth factor to the mix that her husband lacks, but that will only go so far. AND it's working (to a degree) because the Queen is still head of the family firm. For now, general tolerance can be media-transformed into "acceptance."

      And I agree with you ladies about the York part of the family formula. :)

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    5. I am so loving this conversation Bluehare, Regina and royalfan ! I completely concur with all you have said.

      I have no doubt that they are a cold cold bunch. The rather unnatural gravitation of William towards the Middletons, who if nothing else are a warm, loving and very united family was the first indication that he places authenticity above blood... I would bet that William is close to neither Charles nor Harry. I believe that he has drifted towards a *real* family and found happiness. Sadly poor Harry doesn't know what that is yet. I do hope he does at some point but I am not hopeful - he does surround himself with an unsavorily arrogant awful bunch of young men.

      I suspect that authenticity is lacking among the royals, and they have lived such a warped existence since birth that they don't even know what it is. Anne strikes me as the only authentic one of the Queen's children. She made a quite unconventional decision very early on to raise her children as humble individuals and I think that it's paid off. I see the body language of Zara and Phillip towards each other and their cousins and there is genuine warmth and caring there. It is not for show. Read the body language of C&C or Edward and Andrew - they're all cutouts, all of them. Nothing real there. Charles seems almost standoffish, on a different platform. Their interaction with each other leads me to believe that Zara and Phillip are the *nice* people.. and somehow I feel that the royal family does not have that many *nice* people in it. I know that Edward and Sophie are well-regarded.. but I think that those who have followed the two of them for the past couple of decades know that is not necessarily true. They are as much like sharks as much as Andrew and the Yorks.

      Andrew in particular strikes me as an overwhelmingly unscrupulous one. The latest feather in his cap was coinciding his own "business trip" to NY with Eugenie's moving to NY to work for the auction house. There was some mild brouhaha in the press about it, and was quickly squelched. That move really infuriated me. He is really the pits. I was visiting India at one point when he also happened to be there - the same palace where he was putting up, in Rajasthan. And there was talk there about him, his penchant for 'entertainment' that I'd rather not go into. Very unsavory. But it really changed the way I view the Queen as well.. because she supports him unconditionally. How can one be so blind? He really makes one want to throw up.

      I think that there is more to Kate than we give credit for. In many ways she is in a thankless awful situation. I suspect that William is no candyfloss to be married to. How can he be - just look at the people who raised him ! She is married into an exceptionally calculating family. W&K are lucky in a way that Charles fought some battles before with his siblings and has successfully gotten Andrew and Edward out of the way, the latter having quietly accepted his wealth and seems to be happily married. But C&C themselves are now waging a very passive, subtle war against K&W and I suspect that it's only going to get more interesting, especially after the Queen passes.

      Charles may have loved Diana but his 'team' is ruthless.. Diana gave an inkling about this when she was alive. It so happens that Diana was a mastermind at playing the media, but William and Kate definitely do not come close to that. They cannot match Charles' PR team yet. They will learn, and perhaps we will see Carole play a larger role in helping them carve out their own niche. She certainly has a huge influence on the two of them.

      Please do keep talking. These comments are so interesting !

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    6. I am so loving this conversation Bluehare, Regina and royalfan ! I completely concur with all you have said.

      I have no doubt that they are a cold cold bunch. The rather unnatural gravitation of William towards the Middletons, who if nothing else are a warm, loving and very united family was the first indication that he places authenticity above blood... I would bet that William is close to neither Charles nor Harry. I believe that he has drifted towards a *real* family and found happiness. Sadly poor Harry doesn't know what that is yet. I do hope he does at some point but I am not hopeful - he does surround himself with an unsavorily arrogant awful bunch of young men.

      I suspect that authenticity is lacking among the royals, and they have lived such a warped existence since birth that they don't even know what it is. Anne strikes me as the only authentic one of the Queen's children. She made a quite unconventional decision very early on to raise her children as humble individuals and I think that it's paid off. I see the body language of Zara and Phillip towards each other and their cousins and there is genuine warmth and caring there. It is not for show. Read the body language of C&C or Edward and Andrew - they're all cutouts, all of them. Nothing real there. Charles seems almost standoffish, on a different platform. Their interaction with each other leads me to believe that Zara and Phillip are the *nice* people.. and somehow I feel that the royal family does not have that many *nice* people in it. I know that Edward and Sophie are well-regarded.. but I think that those who have followed the two of them for the past couple of decades know that is not necessarily true. They are as much like sharks as much as Andrew and the Yorks.

      Andrew in particular strikes me as an overwhelmingly unscrupulous one. The latest feather in his cap was coinciding his own "business trip" to NY with Eugenie's moving to NY to work for the auction house. There was some mild brouhaha in the press about it, and was quickly squelched. That move really infuriated me. He is really the pits. I was visiting India at one point when he also happened to be there - the same palace where he was putting up, in Rajasthan. And there was talk there about him, his penchant for 'entertainment' that I'd rather not go into. Very unsavory. But it really changed the way I view the Queen as well.. because she supports him unconditionally. How can one be so blind? He really makes one want to throw up.

      I think that there is more to Kate than we give credit for. In many ways she is in a thankless awful situation. I suspect that William is no candyfloss to be married to. How can he be - just look at the people who raised him ! She is married into an exceptionally calculating family. W&K are lucky in a way that Charles fought some battles before with his siblings and has successfully gotten Andrew and Edward out of the way, the latter having quietly accepted his wealth and seems to be happily married. But C&C themselves are now waging a very passive, subtle war against K&W and I suspect that it's only going to get more interesting, especially after the Queen passes.

      Charles may have loved Diana but his 'team' is ruthless.. Diana gave an inkling about this when she was alive. It so happens that Diana was a mastermind at playing the media, but William and Kate definitely do not come close to that. They cannot match Charles' PR team yet. They will learn, and perhaps we will see Carole play a larger role in helping them carve out their own niche. She certainly has a huge influence on the two of them.

      Please do keep talking. These comments are so interesting !

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    7. bluhare in Washington State5 December 2013 at 16:23

      Thank you, Regina. Very apt posting name, by the way.

      I suppose Charles isn't very close to his mother, being raised by his nanny for all intents and purposes, but it must be so strange to have your job depend on your mother dying. Frankly, I think it will be harder for William as it appears Charles has a much closer relationship with he and Harry than he does with his parents. And apparently a close relationship with his nanny, as she gets to go to Sandringham (in the main house) every Christmas. I think that's really sweet.

      Camilla's a good match for him. She seems to iron out some of the stuffiness that he has. Being so stuffy is a shame, really, as it impacts the effects of what he does do which is a lot. I had never thought about Camilla being shrewd, and I thank royalfan for that one, as I think she's right. Charles is smart to use her to take the edge off him, as well as potentially any flak that could come from her comments.

      As to the rest of it, I can't stand Andrew. I think he's pompous and a boor, not to mention questionable taste in friends. But I won't taint B&E with his brush and I do understand why he'd be upset for them, but they live in a patronymic system and that's the way it works. The heir gets it all, the rest not so much. Agree about Anne; she doesn't have much use for anyone except her children, grandchildren and horses. (Not sure of the order either!) But she's as snobby as the rest of them or else curtseying wouldn't be an issue for her. I don't have lot of sympathy about that and, believe it or not, I don't think the Queen should have amended anything. Kate and Diana married heirs to the throne and should be treated as such, and not demoted or demeaned because someone else doesn't like it.

      And I really don't know the relationship between Kate and the Yorks. They aren't best buddies, I'm pretty comfortable saying that, and I've read quite a bit that says they don't like each other, but I'm clueless as to whether that's actually true. B&E run with Cressida's crowd and I think it was Eugenie who introduced her to Harry.

      But the Middletons . . . more specifically Carole. She's quite the self promoter, I'll give her that. It will be interesting to see if she goes with them to Australia, and I won't bet against it. Their nanny is old enough she may not want to make the trip. Carole certainly plays a good long game, though.

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    8. This is an interesting conversation, although I don't agree with much of it.

      Mainly I'm confused as to how Carole is a good self-promoter. What has she done to promote herself? She gives no interviews, and other than paparazzi photographs of her with Kate, what is she promoting? What exactly is she doing to promote herself, and what does she get out of it?

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    9. bluhare I agree with your assessment of Andrew, as well as Charles' "goals" where his brother is concerned. The difference between Anne and Andrew is that she doesn't give a fig what people think and she wanted to give her children the ability to live a somewhat normal life of their own choosing. Andrew, on the other hand, wants to hold on to everything royal and I suspect it was equally important to Sarah. But as I've stated more than once, if that was/is the vision he had for his immediate family, he should have seen to it that Sarah didn't introduce the girls to the Hollywood-type crowd. That didn't do *any* of the Yorks any favors.


      Regina, I agree regarding C&C determination to be in the "top job" as Diana said he calls it and also that the lovefest may be a bit different behind the scenes. I do think she's a good match for him and balances his rigid persona, but it may work the other way too when it comes to living together. She *did* hold onto the home she lived in prior to her marriage to Charles and stays there periodically. Considering the love story the public is supposed to buy into, that says something.


      Regarding family politics, curtseying and all, yes it is mind boggling. As far as the dynamics between W&K and C&C are concerned, I am glad that Carole Middleton is a wise woman who is well aware of the family history her daughter has stepped into. And I'm even more glad that William has a good relationship with her family because IMO the *Middleton's* have W&K's best interests at heart, and not C&C who have always been self-serving.


      LM, OMG, I agree with so much of what you've said so I won't repeat your post. LOL. (Although I do think William and Harry are close and supportive of one another.) But I must say that it's nice to see that someone else isn't totally sold on Edward and Sophie. I've always seen her as a PR person who was shrewd enough to learn from Diana and Sarah's mistakes with the in-laws and was determined to use her "blandness" to gain favor with the Queen...THAT was the "crown" she was after.

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    10. bluhare, I also want to add that while I totally agree about Camilla balancing her husband's rather stuff demeanor, I can't give him credit for using her for that purpose. I think he's too stuffy to realize that he's stuffy. LOL. IMO Camilla does that for her own PR benefit. Although she does take the prize for ego stroking and look where it got her! :)

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    11. I think there's too much speculation about intrigue and power plays. Charles is not making decisions on his own that push out other members of the family, nor is he wanting his sons out of the spot light because he is in competition with them. A committee was formed years ago to chart the way forward for the royal family and the queen and others are also part of the decision making process to streamline the future royal family. Since Charles knows how long the wait is to become king, first hand, he cares enough about his sons to let them have some type of independent careers before the royal duties become their full time jobs.

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  14. Kate's jacket is her ladies waxed Barbour Defence Jacket ;)

    via Ashley Marie on WKW FB page

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  15. I don't see the problem with the pictures. Kate is a public figure and public figures get photographed when they are out and about in public places. Why should Kate be any different?

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  16. That question: Should Kate be photographed when she's with George? If it was a perfect world she probably wouldn't ever be photographed outside of official events but unfortunately that's not how things are. Of course I won't deny that I love seeing photos of Kate, but I did feel a little guilty after seeing these. She appears to be aware of the paparazzi taking her photo and looks very uncomfortable and I don't blame her. I know many will say she shouldn't have married royalty if she minded being photographed, or that it's just part of the role and privilege. But here she is just a new mother spending time with her son and I feel it's a little sad that the public can intrude on that through media. Kate's privacy was grossly invaded with the topless photos so I can only imagine how apprehensive she is about her son experiencing anything close to that level of intrusion, and how much she and William both would want to protect him from that.
    Of course George will almost certainly be photographed in his childhood but if he must be then I hope it is limited to more public, busy places where one would expect him to be recognized, and not when being strolled by his mother in a quiet park. Kate doesn't really appear to be a baseball cap kinda girl (it's probably William's hat lol) so I think it's safe to assume she's probably hoping to avoid any attention, and just enjoy the fresh air and time with her son.
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    1. Kensington Gardens is "a quiet park"??

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    2. i recall her wearing a blue baseball cap when she was dating William

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    3. On the other hand, these are wealthy people who have many private retreats with loads of space to roam, if not at a moment's notice like this outing. I am sure there was a detective hovering nearby, there would have to be. I do not feel sorry for her if she is photographed in a public park. In many ways she lives an enchanted life. In other ways, no one would want to be the Duchess of Cambridge. So happy that when I dash out to the market in grubby jeans and uncombed hair, it will not appear with snarky captions on the front page of the newspaper. But if I were married to George Clooney (sigh), I would expect it.

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    4. Yes, Kensington Gardens is a quiet park believe it or not. It's enormous and as soon as you are on the grounds you forget about being in the center of London. It never felt crowded to me anyway.

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    5. I agree that she deserves privacy in her personal life. Her work life is public, her private life is not. I'm glad there are some people on here who are able to understand this. I'm sure this isn't the first time she's been out walking Prince George, just the first time an obnoxious photographer sold the pictures to a group who is not abiding by the rules of courtesy the rest of the british press are abiding by.

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  17. Why are people making Kate into a victim? She wanted to go for a walk, she knew there was a chance she would be photographed, and she decided to go! She is a smart lady who makes her own decisions and can take care of herself. That's one reason I love her. Why is it "sad" she was photographed? People want to see her because they feel affection for her.

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  18. Such a hard question. As a new mom it can be isolating at times so I would hate for kate not to go or do things because she feels harassed. But we all love to hear the latest news. I think this photographer was tasteful as he didn't approach her. But I agree with another poster that you can't see George and I think that's important. There are many celebrities who don't want their children photographed and I think that is fair. After looking at the photo, I felt a little guilty as she didn't seem too happy noticing she was getting photographed and it is nice to let the family have their day to day lives to themselves. I say, I'm happy to see this shot but if I don't see anymore, I'd be fine with that too.

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  19. I thouroughly enjoyed reading all the comments given so far. It is indeed no easy question to answer..... I prefer to look at reality. We ALL live in the 21st century, with Iphones, internet and mobiles and small cameras making perfectly brilliant pictures from literally MILES away (my daughter has one, not even expensive and it is absolutely amazing at what distance you can be from an "object" and still make pictures as if you were standing right next to it). Everyone knows it takes MILLIseconds to put them on the internet and thus spread them all over the world in just another few milliseconds. That is the reality we live in. What does it mean for each and every one of us? We can be photographed in any given moment, even while being at home, through closed windows - it doesn´t matter.... Most of us, though, are thankfully not bothered - because we know no-one will be interested in our photos so no-one will take them and spread them across the world-wide-web.

    Now we come to all those who are in the unfortunate position (or fortunate, depending on how you see it) that the world IS interested in any pictures that are taken of them in any given moment.... Those are people "of public interest" - and the wife of Prince William - whether she likes it or not - is one of them. She knew that from the very beginning. She had a choice. She made it. She married him. It might seem unfair, but that´s life: if you marry someone like Prince William, there will ALWAYS be someone to photograph you - simply because there is a demand for that. You can be angry and annoyed about that in whatever way you want. It doesn´t change facts and it doesn´t change reality.

    My friends in Britain used to say to me "If you can´t stand the heat, get out of the business". And that is true. So in my opinion, people taking photos is a fact of life for the Duchess. In today´s world you cannot do anything to ban this or make it disappear. If William or the Palace tries it, I can only say they will not win this battle. Simply because one cannot fight the whole world.... I agree that it should be general consent not to intrude their privacy but unfortunately we are not living in a perfect world. If I were Kate I would definitely NOT sunbathe topless - NOWHERE - unless I didn´t mind if photos were going around the world two minutes later. Why? Because I am aware of reality. And reality means, today´s technology allows almost anybody to take photos of me even in the most intimate moments and spread them around the world .

    The only way to solve this problem is simply: all of us back off and do not look at any pictures of Kate UNLESS they have been taken at official engagements. It´s a simple business rule: no demand - no offer. No one buys magazines or visits websites with "nude photos" - no money will be paid for those pictures, no attention paid to the photographer - no photos will be taken anymore. The question is: are we all willing to do this? Regarding the "nude photos" it might be "easy" - but don´t we all love photos of Kate´s "everyday life"? Is photographing her shopping clothes not an intrusion - but doing so while she´s out on a walk with her baby son is one? What do we have to do should we be taking a walk at the same time as her? I must admit, seeing a young mother with a sweet baby on a walk always makes me smile - and more often than not the mother smiles back and sometimes it even is a start for a friendly chat. What would happen if I saw Kate? Would doing the same thing suddenly be "an intrusion of her privacy"? Would I have to look the other way?

    Once again, if we all didn´t take a look on the "Popsugar"´s website, I can assure you this kind of photos would quickly disappear..... So it´s all up to us! Eve from Germany

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    1. bluhare in Washington State5 December 2013 at 16:27

      I totally agree with you, Eve. Especially on the part about smiling and (in my case) making faces at babies we encounter if mom says it's OK. I'd probably be arrested if I ran into Kate and George. He's a cute little devil.

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    2. It's a great point about moms with babies. I have a 10month old son and can't believe how friendly people are to me now! I always stop and chat with them because I know how much happiness babies bring to people. That goes on to my post. I think kate should feel free to go out and about and have those interactions with people and not feel as though it's just because it's her and little George.
      And I agree about the photos. If we don't look, they will probably stop due to low demand. I definitely won't be looking next time :)

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  20. In the first photo Kate appears to be waving or signaling at someone. I'm thinking it's her protection officers to let them know that there is a photographer there. She wouldn't wave that high to get Lupo's attention. Every photo after that she is very aware that someone is taking pictures of her.
    It appears as though she was hoping she wouldn't be recognized because she wore the baseball cap and she's never done that before. And lots of high profile people always wear a baseball cap when wanting to blend in.

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    1. bluhare in Washington State5 December 2013 at 15:45

      Maybe she thought she'd look like an American tourist? LOL. That was tongue in cheek because I was told that if I wanted to look like an American tourist in London, wear a baseball cap and trainers.

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    2. I got that feeling too. Based on the 6 or so pics that are on popsugar, it does seem like she noticed the camera and got the heck outta there ASAP. Maybe she was waving at a friend - she has lived in the area forever right? It's not totally out of the question. I agree with previous posters that Kate's a smart lady and she must know that someone is watching all the time in the hopes to get pics and she went out anyway. I also agree with previous posters about the fact that if we (and I am guilty as well) didn't look at the pics the demand would go down...but I so love casual Kate! LOL I hope she wasnt to bothered by the photographer and felt refreshed after her walk.

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  21. I understand all of you opinions, but I think it's finally nice to see that Kate is walking around with George. the boy is now 4 month old and it's the first time we see the two out and about - and really - I'm happy that I, in the end, know that she is thanking him for a walk... And as you all said, she has always to be aware of people making photos - so for sure she knew that there will be photos for her walking finally with her baby the first time... And I don't see any offense here...

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  22. As long as George is not included in the pics and the paparazzi don't harrass Kate I think it's nothing but nice to see Kate acting as a normal mum, such an idyllic wiew in my opinion, especially after I saw an italian footballer wife in a stroll with her baby daughter with TWO nannies, one pushing the pram: she was walking watching shops and no care for the baby. So, go on Kate, we're with you!

    On a side note, I just love the pram. It was the kind of choice I expected ftom Kate! I think George's one is this one in navy blue http://m.silvercrossbaby.com/pram-systems/Sleepover-Elegance/navy/

    Greetings from Italy!
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  23. I see nothing wrong with these photos. She is really a down-to-earth person, and it is good to see. It is not wise to visualise anybody attacking her any way because people get crazy here.:-(

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  24. Jean from Lancs.5 December 2013 at 10:12

    Taking a photograph of HRH walking in a public place, cannot I think be prevented---as long as they keep their distance. Pushing up close and frightening the child by trying to look in the pram, would not be acceptable.
    I wonder if Catherine was making the perfectly acceptable point, that for the moment looking after her child is her"day job" and wearing tiaras etc just very part-time at the moment.
    Interesting that people passing, either did not recognize her, or chose to allow her privacy---just one man seem to have a second look, as though he couldn't quite believe it.
    It would be nice to think she could take her child (and her dog) out without being photographed---but that really is cloud cuckoo land. I just wonder what Lupo would do if a photographer got too close.

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  25. Personally I haven't viewed the photos because I am not sure I 100% feel comfortable with them.

    For me I am well aware that Kate married William with her eyes open and was aware she would become a public figure, however being a public figure doesn't in my personal view mean that everything you do should be recorded and fair game for the public, a public figure is still entitled to a private life in the same way you and I have a work/home life balance.

    Whilst I am not necessarily against the occasional candid taken when she is out shopping provided it is discret and doesn't involve harrassment. I think we are all aware of what happened to William's mother and William's own difficultly with the press. It is obvious that they wish to protect Prince George from unnecessary intrusion by the press and allow him freedom to experience as normal a childhood as possible. George is a long way off becoming king himself after all!

    I am pleased to see from the comments that George wasn't pictured, but although I understand the public wishes to see George grow up, I worry that Kate cannot move about freely with George because of photos both candid's from the public and the relentless paparazzi, this is the first time it appears that they have ventured out together doing "normal" things. Kate is probably unable to do many things that first time mothers do like go to mother and baby groups, take the baby to lunch to meet her friends/sister or mother or take George shopping etc. I appreciate they have a private garden with their apartment but equally none of us would like to be restriced to just our homes for fear of press intrusion.

    I hope that the palace and the press can agree somekind of deal like William experienced at university, where Kate and George are allowed to move around freely, with limited intrusion and in return the press can have occasional photo calls or releases showing George growing up.

    I think the palace are trying to take the heat out of the kate/william headlines. Partly the headlines have been fuelled by the limited number of engagements they performed as they were part time royals. Increasingly we are seeing William increasing his enagagements and Kate too to some extent, she is officially on maternity leave but still attending engagments, this takes some of the heat out of candids as they are not the only photos of Kate whilst she is on maternity leave. The more events William attends the less it makes the front pages as the press can't find anything to make a story out of. I think the events of yesterday where no PA photos were released will become more frequent to some extent as this cools the fire and allows them to conduct some engagements without the press intrusion, equally as their engagements increase over the coming years I expect fewer will be formally annouced in advance to avoid the build up and anticipation.

    There will always be press at some engagements for publicity but they Queen doesn't make headlines everytime she has an engagment, neither to Anne or Sophie, Camila or Charles. I think the palace would like William and Kate to find a happy balance, where sufficient press coverage is achieved to raise the profile of good causes and charity but doesn't result in "press/fan mania" which undermines their desire for a degree of privacy.

    We all know George is an heir to a throne, but he is also a little boy who happened to be born to royal parents.....he didn't choose that and hopefully balance can be achieved to give him space to grow up in relative normality, whilst meeting the public desire to witness him grow from a cute baby to well balanced young man and future king.

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    1. The taxpayer's "value added" for the Royal Family is their official public appearances, when they uphold national traditions, set an example or publicize good causes. I have no problem with photographs of all those occasions, from balcony waves to packing relief boxes after a disaster. I believe the diplomatic reception has never yielded official photos though. Too bad, would have loved to see that gown.

      And of course taking one's child to the park is a private affair, but then there is the celebrity factor in a public space. I am not bothered by the photos being taken, and she should be used to it by now. It's not as if they were stalking Kate and I feel certain the same rules that applied to William and Harry when they started school will be set for their children. Children's daily lives should be off-limits unless officially approved by the Palace. It's the same with our President's children. We see photos of him attending a school soccer (football) match, but no photos of his daughters are published. Weren't most Royal children before Diana's boys tutored at home, at least for the first few years? I thought Charles was the first to attend university. So it's not been anything they had to deal with until rather recently. And in a 24 hour news cycle. It will not stop, and maybe that's okay as long as reasonable bounds of decency are observed.

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  26. Please let's move on from this 'poor Kate's hard life'. Ok aspects of it not gr8 but by no means too bad. She's in a public place she is a public figure and unfortunately u can't turn that on or off she wasn't surrounded or harassed. I'm afraid we can't complain because even by being interested and reading blogs such as these we too are fuelling interest. Annie London

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  27. Melanie from California5 December 2013 at 17:58

    I think that because Kate is in a public park, if passers-by were to photograph her and then submit it to a news outlet or post the picture on twitter, then that is fine. It is exciting to see a celebrity or a royal when it is not expected. In that case, the image conveys, "Look who happened to be in the same place at the same time as me." Then the photo is viewed as being a fun chance-event.

    The problem with paparazzi photographs is those people lie in wait or stalk people. No. I don't think paparazzi photographs are acceptable. It is an underhanded form of photography.

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  28. what a lovely pram! I hope to get one as beautiful as that for my future child. I don't see Kate though is there a photo of her pushing her child?

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    1. I see you posted a link to popsugar. Thank you so much.

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  29. Great post! So nice of you to give the details, while not posting the snaps of her.

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  30. When photos were taken of Kate walking lupo in Kensington gardens before she became pregnant some appeared in the British Press I am not aware of any of these featuring her walking George appearing in the British papers maybe this answers the question as to it being an invasion of privacy. I must admit I enjoyed seeing the photos of her walking George in Kensington gardens and they were clearly taken from quite a distance away so as not to be intrusive but now she has been spotted once there is no doubt a danger that more paparazzi will be hanging around for the chance of a photo. I do hope this does not lead to her not being able to take advantage of the lovely open spaces to walk her baby and dog it would become very claustrophobic if she is only able to walk George in their enclosed garden large though it may be. The press refer to living in Kensington Palace as living in a goldfish bowl I hope it does not become like that for William & Kate

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  31. Just as an FYI, the actual price for the Pushchair is £650, not the £275 you gave (which is just for the chassis). Not as much coverage on the choice of pram as I'd thought there would be, considering all the media speculation before the birth, especially when it was reported she'd bought a Bugaboo. Anyway, sorry to be pedantic, thanks again for running such an excellent blog.

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    1. Hello!

      Thank you so much for sharing, I will update immediately :)

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